pacino wrote:it's really not all that rife with fraud, and the fraud that does happen usually comes on the provider end in Medicaid.

This is not true at all, ive seen you state this multilpe times and i have no clue how you reach this conclusion. I've processed over 800,000 so far this year in fraud overpayments and these are just the cases I come across, without a thorough review and if I was allowed to review all the files in my office I'm sure I could triple tht amount easily.

These clients are committing fraud all the time and its right under your nose. Most live with the father of the children or receive income that goes unreported, thusly receiving benefits they aren't entitled to. And the biggest cost is Childcare, it accounts for over 60% of the budget. That's where the money is. A client receives a ton more in Childcare services than any TANF or FS allotment.

we were not even allowed to prosecute for Medicaid until recently, so I'm not sure where you are getting this, either. the big money is medicaid, and you should know that if you are prosecuting them.

'my nose'? that seems awfully accusatory as though i am not doing my job. anyone who checks my current, or previous, caseload would not gather that. childcare services are expensive, but that is also due to jacking of rates. yes, fathers lives with mothers. i find that, too. most of the people on benefits are not frauding the system, and i don't really appreciate you painting people who are struggling with such a broad brush. you are essentially stating 2.4 million people are frauding the government.

td11 wrote:lol pac you act like this is your job or something

It's mine as well and he's waay off base on this. I work on the Childcare side of these programs and one o my main duties is client fraud and working with the office of inspector general on fraud. It's rampant, it's just not caught he way it should be due to incompetence and apathy. As I stated above the money is in the Childcare subsidy. We spend way more dollars on Childcare than the actual cash or FS money allotted on an ebt card.

Sorry, Pacino. I have a really hard time hearing from someone at a CAO that there's no fraud in DPW programs when I spend half of my day prosecuting such and dealing with OIG as well as upper level DPW people in the state that confirm the issue and its severity. I guess Berks is just an outlier, where fraud isn't occurring.

I also meant the CAO's nose, not you specifically. I have no idea what you do in your county. However, I can attest to dauphin's and how poorly a job is done, where red flags are all over a case and no one cares to take action or its missed for whatever reason

there is fraud. it is not 'rife', and nor are there 2.4 million cases which are committing fraud in the state of PA.

i've personally found plenty of fraud, when it was my job to, and continue to. it is not every other case. i deal with mostly elerly, disabled, and working. all bums and moochers, no doubt.

and now my break is over, or else they will fire my incompetent and apathetic ass.

I never stated the numbers your quoting me at. I referred to tanf clients and my personel experience prosecuting their fraud on the Childcare end of things. Your also so overly sensitive it's ridiculous, get a grip

You stated 800k. Then you state it could be threefold if you had enough time. 3 x 800k.

Ive decided to leave work eaely instead, in orser to better assess my incompetence.