Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 14:02:13

Youseff wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Soren whined about that yesterday


this is such a shitty sentence.
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby allentown » Fri Feb 01, 2013 14:14:01

Werthless wrote:Anchor baby originally referred to Vietnamese. But now, it can be used derogatorily in reference to children of all immigrants. A race of immigrants, one might say. :)

In my opinion, there's a big difference between poor word choice and racism. To others, there's not.

This isn't to say that 'anchor baby' wasn't used as a racist term against Vietnamese. I guess you're too young to remember when Vietnamese were quite casually referred to as gooks and dinks. There was a lot of racism aimed at the Vietnamese.
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby td11 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 14:14:03

A Pointless Amnesty

And, if we are to take Hispanics at their word, conservative attitudes toward illegal immigration are a minor reason for their voting preferences. While many are in business for themselves, they express hostile attitudes toward free enterprise in polls. They are disproportionately low-income and disproportionately likely to receive some form of government support. More than half of Hispanic births are out of wedlock. Take away the Spanish surname and Latino voters look a great deal like many other Democratic constituencies. Low-income households headed by single mothers and dependent upon some form of welfare are not looking for an excuse to join forces with Paul Ryan and Pat Toomey.


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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Feb 01, 2013 14:21:14

i'm interested in the John Brennan hearing on Feb 7th. i personally wouldnt vote for him, especially after finding out he new about the torture going on under Bush.
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Feb 01, 2013 14:22:20

td11 wrote:A Pointless Amnesty

And, if we are to take Hispanics at their word, conservative attitudes toward illegal immigration are a minor reason for their voting preferences. While many are in business for themselves, they express hostile attitudes toward free enterprise in polls. They are disproportionately low-income and disproportionately likely to receive some form of government support. More than half of Hispanic births are out of wedlock. Take away the Spanish surname and Latino voters look a great deal like many other Democratic constituencies. Low-income households headed by single mothers and dependent upon some form of welfare are not looking for an excuse to join forces with Paul Ryan and Pat Toomey.


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perhaps it's simply the right thing to do?
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Feb 01, 2013 14:23:11

The Nightman Cometh wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Americans should be allowed to legally gamble on whether Lautenberg, Menendez, neither or both will make it to November 2014 as NJ senators

From politickernj.com:
Poll
Who's in a weaker spot politically right now?
U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg 50%
U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez 50%

USA! USA! USA!

So wonderful the NJ dems didn't have the foresight to change an open senate seat from governor appointment to special election while they still had total power.

Deval Patrick showed restraint with his appointments, both times. I wonder if Christie would.
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby td11 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 14:43:42

pacino wrote:
td11 wrote:A Pointless Amnesty

And, if we are to take Hispanics at their word, conservative attitudes toward illegal immigration are a minor reason for their voting preferences. While many are in business for themselves, they express hostile attitudes toward free enterprise in polls. They are disproportionately low-income and disproportionately likely to receive some form of government support. More than half of Hispanic births are out of wedlock. Take away the Spanish surname and Latino voters look a great deal like many other Democratic constituencies. Low-income households headed by single mothers and dependent upon some form of welfare are not looking for an excuse to join forces with Paul Ryan and Pat Toomey.


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perhaps it's simply the right thing to do?


the whole tone of that paragraph is gross. "those brown poors are never going to vote for us because they are inherently poor, brown, promiscuous, and lazy"
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Feb 01, 2013 15:05:42

our new AG, Kathleen Kane. some beat up knees...
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Feb 01, 2013 15:08:45

Pat Toomey voted against Hurricane Sandy relief. what an utter jerk.
On October 28th:
Dear Mr. Fugate:

We write in strong support of a request made today by Governor Tom Corbett and the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency seeking approval of a federal "pre-landfall" disaster declaration. As you know, Hurricane Sandy is expected to have a major impact on the Commonwealth during the course of this week. Consistent with all applicable laws, rules and regulations, we seek expedited review and approval of the Commonwealth's request.

The Commonwealth, along with county and local governments across Pennsylvania, has been diligently preparing for Sandy. The requested pre-landfall declaration will bolster these ongoing efforts. It will also ensure that resources are available and in place so that communities can be as prepared as possible to deal with the anticipated impacts.

Approval of this request is necessary to help the Commonwealth fully prepare for the oncoming onslaught of precipitation and wind as well as the potential for flooding and other associated risks.

Sincerely,



Robert P. Casey, Jr.
United States Senator

Pat Toomey
United States Senator
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Feb 01, 2013 15:35:43

pacino wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Americans should be allowed to legally gamble on whether Lautenberg, Menendez, neither or both will make it to November 2014 as NJ senators

From politickernj.com:
Poll
Who's in a weaker spot politically right now?
U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg 50%
U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez 50%

USA! USA! USA!

So wonderful the NJ dems didn't have the foresight to change an open senate seat from governor appointment to special election while they still had total power.

Deval Patrick showed restraint with his appointments, both times. I wonder if Christie would.

What the heck does this mean?

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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Feb 01, 2013 15:36:32

picking people who would not run...guaranteeing no added incumbent advantage for either side
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Feb 01, 2013 15:52:26

pacino wrote:picking people who would not run...guaranteeing no added incumbent advantage for either side

Patrick didn't make his picks out of some noble purpose. He's a member of a party that has a half dozen people who really want to be senator, and he didn't want to piss any of them off by giving one a leg up in the special election Dem primary over another.

Christie might appoint a caretaker for the seat if a bunch of Republicans all express interest in running for the seat, but being the GOP nominee in New Jersey isn't like being a Dem nominee in Massachusetts, so he'll almost certainly just pick whoever he wants as the candidate representing the state in Washington longterm as he should as governor.

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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Fri Feb 01, 2013 15:58:10

I don't think Menendez is 100% done at this point yet.
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Feb 01, 2013 17:04:39

Who in the hell is this idiot?

President Obama Commemorates the ‘Senseless’ Holocaust
By Eliana Johnson
January 28, 2013 1:18 P.M.

President Obama issued a statement yesterday to commemorate International Holocaust Remembrance Day. He noted that survivors who bore witness to “the horrors of the cattle cars, ghettos, and concentration camps have witnessed humanity at its very worst and know too well the pain of losing loved ones to senseless violence.” (We noted below how some in Europe chose to mark the day, which takes place each year on January 27, the day Soviet troops liberated Auschwitz.)

The idea that all violence is “senseless” violence is one that has taken deep root on the left; it’s also, unfortunately, one that poses a major impediment to understanding the world.

Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.

On September 12, 2012, President Obama also lamented the “the kind of senseless violence that took the lives” of four Americans in Benghazi. That, you may recall, is the day the president supposedly said the murders occurred as a result of a non-senseless terrorist attack carried out by jihadists.

This sanitized version of events, both past and present, is surely more comforting. It’s also truly senseless.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/339003/president-obama-commemorates-senseless-holocaust-eliana-johnson

I have to say, the comments are pretty awesome.

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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Feb 01, 2013 17:46:54

That belongs on the things that make you dumber if you read them thread. Because though the standards of the politics thread are low, there are still standards.
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby td11 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 17:47:37

what point is she trying to make? genuine query
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby swishnicholson » Fri Feb 01, 2013 18:07:32

td11 wrote:what point is she trying to make? genuine query


That anything calculated (and I'm selecting my terms carefully here) is not "senseless", and that frequently evil is calculated. Which is of course A. obvious and B. limits the meaning of the word senseless to apply only to those running around foaming at the mouth, which is not how it is truly understood. And certainly that's not what Obama meant, which means she is either dumb as a rock or, more likely, using a "calculated" misapprehension. "To no good purpose" might be a good definition of senseless here, though it doesn't carry the same sense of waste that senseless does, which is very applicable in this situation.

I had a bone to pick a few years ago when every foreign leader spewing vitriol against the US was inevitably labeled a "madman", which understated the danger of these people and obstructed understanding the root causes of their acts, and I think this is what she is trying to get at here. But it's just plain so wrong in so many ways, and the examples used are almost guaranteed to only bring forth criticism rather than support. So not only stupid, but senselessly stupid.
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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby td11 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 18:15:24

swishnicholson wrote:
td11 wrote:what point is she trying to make? genuine query


That anything calculated (and I'm selecting my terms carefully here) is not "senseless", and that frequently evil is calculated. Which is of course A. obvious and B. limits the meaning of the word senseless to apply only to those running around foaming at the mouth, which is not how it is truly understood.

this was as far as my brain went.

So not only stupid, but senselessly stupid.


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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby bleh » Fri Feb 01, 2013 18:27:14

td11 wrote:what point is she trying to make? genuine query

The Holocaust was a sensible endeavor.

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Re: Sequestering The Night Away - Politics

Postby SK790 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 23:16:49

Nazism was merely a modest proposal...
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