also, military ballots swing election for romney!!!

sick of this.

i mean how do people fall for that?

in 2004 I was fairly well convinced we were headed towards an imperial state with big brother watching over our shoulder and secret police water boarding our own citizens. I mean, I think they're jackasses and probably couldn't give you 1) a definition of socialism or 2) an example of how Obama is a socialist but I understand the emotional reaction.

CalvinBall wrote:also, military ballots swing election for romney!!!

sick of this.

This makes our military sound more incompetent than the Empire's stormtroopers. You'd think it would make people wonder.

CalvinBall wrote:i mean how do people fall for that?

The number of posters here who would be hinting or openly claiming the election was stolen if Romney won is a number greater than zero. Electronic voting or some other boogeyman would be the culprit.

There would be long rants about money buying elections. Romney would be illegitimate because he lied his way to the White House. Etc.

Some people handle getting beaten better than others.

TomatoPie wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Don't get me wrong, I often find Chris Matthews entertaining. But it's in the same way that I enjoy my crazy, drunk uncle. I certainly don't take him seriously, and you can't be surprised when he drops an f-bomb during Thanksgiving Dinner.

I've been on the inside of big events where we pay for a well-known keynote speaker. You pick 'em up at the airport, direct them to the podium, etc. Sometimes you get to hobnob in the green room or c0cktail reception. Most folks are really gracious, but the two biggest horses' patoots were Bob Woodward and Chris Matthews. The kindest, sweetest, most patient? Barbara Bush. Locally, Larry Kane also a good guy.

I've heard Carville was pretty much in real life the way he is on TV, but is a real people person and very cooperative with the event planners and gracious about people lining up to have their picture taken with him.

jerseyhoya wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:i mean how do people fall for that?

The number of posters here who would be hinting or openly claiming the election was stolen if Romney won is a number greater than zero. Electronic voting or some other boogeyman would be the culprit.

There would be long rants about money buying elections. Romney would be illegitimate because he lied his way to the White House. Etc.

Some people handle getting beaten better than others.

maybe. hard to deal in the hypothetical. all i know is that many on the right are still in full meltdown mode.

If Romney won those would likely be fair points. Shit, some are fair points now.

jerseyhoya wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:i mean how do people fall for that?

The number of posters here who would be hinting or openly claiming the election was stolen if Romney won is a number greater than zero. Electronic voting or some other boogeyman would be the culprit.

There would be long rants about money buying elections. Romney would be illegitimate because he lied his way to the White House. Etc.

Some people handle getting beaten better than others.

Yes, but those suspicions would at least be based on the pre-ED state polling. What Calvin is talking about is entirely different (military ballots).

Soren wrote:http://www.modbee.com/2012/11/08/2448491/obama-threat-gets-woman-fired.html

"OK, but what did I do wrong? That's fine if they want to," she told the reporter. "But I don't understand what I did wrong."

kill it with fire.

LOL

"So apparently my post last night about Obama got onto Twitter and Fox 40 came and interviewed me cause apparently a lot of people in Sacramento think I'm crazy and racist. WOW is all I got to say!! I'm not racist and I'm not crazy. just simply stating my opinion.!!!"

Maybe it's b/c of

"And another 4 years of the (n-----). Maybe he will get assassinated this term..!!"

But my favorite part of the article:

She is not listed as a registered voter in the state registry database.

Obama lost every county in West Virginia. That was a swing state as recently as 2000.

phdave wrote:

If EV's were divvied up by square mile instead of population barry may have been shut out.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:i mean how do people fall for that?

The number of posters here who would be hinting or openly claiming the election was stolen if Romney won is a number greater than zero. Electronic voting or some other boogeyman would be the culprit.

There would be long rants about money buying elections. Romney would be illegitimate because he lied his way to the White House. Etc.

Some people handle getting beaten better than others.

Yes, but those suspicions would at least be based on the pre-ED state polling. What Calvin is talking about is entirely different (military ballots).

But those were all cooked numbers

dajafi wrote:Obama lost every county in West Virginia. That was a swing state as recently as 2000.

Look at 1988:

jesus fuck

Bucky wrote:If EV's were divvied up by square mile instead of population barry may have been shut out.

I'm trying to figure out what this means. Do you mean that people vote in states and the majority of votes determine who gets the electoral votes for that state which are determined by square miles? So if a majority of voters in Rhode Island (274,000) voted for Obama he would get lets say 1 EV (compared to 4 now) and if a majority of voters in Alaska vote for Romney (121,000) they would get 485 EVs (because Alaska is 485 Xs as large as RI) compared to 3 now.

But why would he have been shut out? Vermont, RI, DC, Mass, CT all look like they had a majority of "geography". But it would have been a smaller number of EVs.

Now that I think about it, we already do give power to geography. California has as many Senators as Wyoming despite having 66 times the number of people.

phdave wrote:

Bucky wrote:If EV's were divvied up by square mile instead of population barry may have been shut out.

I'm trying to figure out what this means. Do you mean that people vote in states and the majority of votes determine who gets the electoral votes for that state which are determined by square miles? So if a majority of voters in Rhode Island (274,000) voted for Obama he would get lets say 1 EV (compared to 4 now) and if a majority of voters in Alaska vote for Romney (121,000) they would get 485 EVs (because Alaska is 485 Xs as large as RI) compared to 3 now.

But why would he have been shut out? Vermont, RI, DC, Mass, CT all look like they had a majority of "geography". But it would have been a smaller number of EVs.

Now that I think about it, we already do give power to geography. California has as many Senators as Wyoming despite having 66 times the number of people.

yes, that's exactly what I meant. And I disclaimed with a "may have been" because I didn't really look closely, just at the overall redness.

but the senate was designed to give all states equal representation, wasn't it? the house takes care of the population-based representation (as messed up as it might currently be).

also, dave, is that last map an artist's interpretation or what?