thephan wrote:

dajafi wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

dajafi wrote:That said, I would guess that more-educated Southerners were more opposed to the president than less educated Southerners.

No, it was pretty consistent here in VA, regardless of education level. The real distinguishing factor was your proximity to an urban center, not your level of education.

Yeah, but he won that state. Culturally, VA is increasingly not-South... though in general, yeah, the "crowded spaces vs empty spaces" divide is a big factor.

Northern and Eastern Virginia is not traditionally southern aligned, but outside of that population band it sure is.

Hampden-Sydney College, an all-male school in central Virginia, is investigating an election-night incident in which a group of students upset about President Obama’s reelection set off fireworks, threw bottles and then shouted racial epithets at members of a minority student organization, officials said Thursday.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Yeah, dajafi, please don't tell anyone here in Richmond that their culture is not-South. Let alone someone in or around Danville, Martinsville, Lynchburg, Roanoke, or... dear god, the parts further west than Roanoke. I mean, we have three of the most prominent conservative Christian law schools in the country dispersed around VA.

thephan wrote:On a related note, every bloody nonpartisan body has said we need both cuts and taxes, otherwise it is a catastrophe. What do you do when logic, and this is simple logic, does not get into the space between the ears? Maybe an immigrant family needs to speak to the YT group in DC to explain how we go without when we do not have, and how we buckle down to find a financial solution. In this case, finding a financial solution is taxation for the government.

thephan wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Yeah, dajafi, please don't tell anyone here in Richmond that their culture is not-South. Let alone someone in or around Danville, Martinsville, Lynchburg, Roanoke, or... dear god, the parts further west than Roanoke. I mean, we have three of the most prominent conservative Christian law schools in the country dispersed around VA.

I suspect that RPH knows more then a few places that fly the stars and bars of a bygone war every day. Richmond was the epicenter of southern succession as it was the capital. Stupid as that sounds, it is a sad truth. As a carpet bagging Yankee, I cannot even begin to understand this, but it is fact.

thephan wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Yeah, dajafi, please don't tell anyone here in Richmond that their culture is not-South. Let alone someone in or around Danville, Martinsville, Lynchburg, Roanoke, or... dear god, the parts further west than Roanoke. I mean, we have three of the most prominent conservative Christian law schools in the country dispersed around VA.

I suspect that RPH knows more then a few places that fly the stars and bars of a bygone war every day. Richmond was the epicenter of southern succession as it was the capital. Stupid as that sounds, it is a sad truth. As a carpet bagging Yankee, I cannot even begin to understand this, but it is fact.

thephan wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Yeah, dajafi, please don't tell anyone here in Richmond that their culture is not-South. Let alone someone in or around Danville, Martinsville, Lynchburg, Roanoke, or... dear god, the parts further west than Roanoke. I mean, we have three of the most prominent conservative Christian law schools in the country dispersed around VA.

I suspect that RPH knows more then a few places that fly the stars and bars of a bygone war every day. Richmond was the epicenter of southern succession as it was the capital. Stupid as that sounds, it is a sad truth. As a carpet bagging Yankee, I cannot even begin to understand this, but it is fact.

Houshphandzadeh wrote:is today big speech today?

if so, I really hope he talks about the perception of welfare and how many people are on it, cause there's a huge chunk of people who think that like a third of the country gets a free paycheck every two weeks and no one seems to care about pushing back against that idea

drsmooth wrote:the only thing more pathetic than the 'reasoning' in this Erikson screed is the comments

The coalition that turned out Election night 2012 to re-elect Barack Obama is Barack Obama’s coalition. It is not Joe Biden’s coalition. It is not the Democrats’ coalition. It turned out to elect Barack Obama in 2008. It did not, despite his pleas, turn out in 2010. It will not turn out in 2014. In 2016, Joe Biden, despite his claims now, is going to be 74 and too old to make a good attempt at the Presidency. If, for some reason, he leaves office sooner than that, the Democrats are going to tear each other apart to fill the seat or the President will pick a care taker.

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Second, the biggest problem the Republicans had on Tuesday night was not demographics, but turnout operations.

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Third, the GOP long term does have a demographic problem, but so do the Democrats.

dajafi wrote:

thephan wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Yeah, dajafi, please don't tell anyone here in Richmond that their culture is not-South. Let alone someone in or around Danville, Martinsville, Lynchburg, Roanoke, or... dear god, the parts further west than Roanoke. I mean, we have three of the most prominent conservative Christian law schools in the country dispersed around VA.

I suspect that RPH knows more then a few places that fly the stars and bars of a bygone war every day. Richmond was the epicenter of southern succession as it was the capital. Stupid as that sounds, it is a sad truth. As a carpet bagging Yankee, I cannot even begin to understand this, but it is fact.

I am aware--I have a few good friends from VA and spent a lot of time there. It's not uniform, obviously... but I think it's more like PA, with a couple large liberal areas and some swing suburbs and then a big rural area that's heavily Republican, than, say, Alabama.

jamiethekiller wrote:

thephan wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Yeah, dajafi, please don't tell anyone here in Richmond that their culture is not-South. Let alone someone in or around Danville, Martinsville, Lynchburg, Roanoke, or... dear god, the parts further west than Roanoke. I mean, we have three of the most prominent conservative Christian law schools in the country dispersed around VA.

I suspect that RPH knows more then a few places that fly the stars and bars of a bygone war every day. Richmond was the epicenter of southern succession as it was the capital. Stupid as that sounds, it is a sad truth. As a carpet bagging Yankee, I cannot even begin to understand this, but it is fact.

we have a plant site that flys a confederate flag outside of its property area. and like every thursday or friday or something crazy people all go out there and salute it. mind blowing

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Yeah, dajafi, please don't tell anyone here in Richmond that their culture is not-South. Let alone someone in or around Danville, Martinsville, Lynchburg, Roanoke, or... dear god, the parts further west than Roanoke. I mean, we have three of the most prominent conservative Christian law schools in the country dispersed around VA.

thephan wrote:

jamiethekiller wrote:

thephan wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Yeah, dajafi, please don't tell anyone here in Richmond that their culture is not-South. Let alone someone in or around Danville, Martinsville, Lynchburg, Roanoke, or... dear god, the parts further west than Roanoke. I mean, we have three of the most prominent conservative Christian law schools in the country dispersed around VA.

I suspect that RPH knows more then a few places that fly the stars and bars of a bygone war every day. Richmond was the epicenter of southern succession as it was the capital. Stupid as that sounds, it is a sad truth. As a carpet bagging Yankee, I cannot even begin to understand this, but it is fact.

we have a plant site that flys a confederate flag outside of its property area. and like every thursday or friday or something crazy people all go out there and salute it. mind blowing

Where on earth are you locate?

As a northern note, if it is stars and bars, that is the battle flag. A quiz you don't want to give to thee Nutzies is to provide 3 flags including the real flag of the confederate states government and the battle flag plus something else plausible and see if they actually know what is the proper confederate flag.

td11 wrote:i thought this was a good take on how, instead of maybe admitting they have a problem, they are simply blaming the voters as being incredibly stupid.

td11 wrote:

drsmooth wrote:the only thing more pathetic than the 'reasoning' in this Erikson screed is the comments

The coalition that turned out Election night 2012 to re-elect Barack Obama is Barack Obama’s coalition. It is not Joe Biden’s coalition. It is not the Democrats’ coalition. It turned out to elect Barack Obama in 2008. It did not, despite his pleas, turn out in 2010. It will not turn out in 2014. In 2016, Joe Biden, despite his claims now, is going to be 74 and too old to make a good attempt at the Presidency. If, for some reason, he leaves office sooner than that, the Democrats are going to tear each other apart to fill the seat or the President will pick a care taker.

...

Second, the biggest problem the Republicans had on Tuesday night was not demographics, but turnout operations.

...

Third, the GOP long term does have a demographic problem, but so do the Democrats.

good stuff.

i thought this was a good take on how, instead of maybe admitting they have a problem, they are simply blaming the voters as being incredibly stupid.