The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby thephan » Wed Nov 07, 2012 17:49:45

Saw a lot of trashed Obama signs along the byways in the Loudoun burbs.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby allentown » Wed Nov 07, 2012 17:51:18

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I haven't really seen much/any racism. they just believe all that dumb socialism stuff

The sort of meanness that we've seen all along, such as the lack of decorum from the guy yelling 'you lie' during the State of the Union and the branding of Obama's tepid, moderate-Republican policies as socialist come from Republican politicians who know that their base doesn't see any problem at all with showing disrespect to any black president and feels any lie is appropriate. This whole birther conspiracy thing is really 'did you forget this guy's black'. The opposition to 'takers' and safety nets is code for "I don't want any of my tax $ supporting blacks. We have all of this made up crap about Obama sending $ to urban minority slackers, when the trail of federal revenue distribution flows from the industrial northeast, midwest, and California to the red states of the Republican south. We've moved from dog whistle alerts to fire engine sirens. The Republican base is terrified of the demographic change in America.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby BDawk » Wed Nov 07, 2012 17:52:14

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I guess. it would be pretty hard for the Republicans to have a campaign free of anything that could be construed as racist

This speaks to their problem with how the electorate has changed and instead of trying to move away from that dynamic they're shouting it even louder.

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Nov 07, 2012 17:54:29

allentown wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I haven't really seen much/any racism. they just believe all that dumb socialism stuff

The sort of meanness that we've seen all along, such as the lack of decorum from the guy yelling 'you lie' during the State of the Union and the branding of Obama's tepid, moderate-Republican policies as socialist come from Republican politicians who know that their base doesn't see any problem at all with showing disrespect to any black president and feels any lie is appropriate. This whole birther conspiracy thing is really 'did you forget this guy's black'. The opposition to 'takers' and safety nets is code for "I don't want any of my tax $ supporting blacks. We have all of this made up crap about Obama sending $ to urban minority slackers, when the trail of federal revenue distribution flows from the industrial northeast, midwest, and California to the red states of the Republican south. We've moved from dog whistle alerts to fire engine sirens. The Republican base is terrified of the demographic change in America.

no, man. you're just taking shitty things the republicans did and calling them racist because Obama is black

they said Kerry was a coward in Vietnam. it was indefensible and he is white

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby drsmooth » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:03:19

Matthews leads his afternoon show with an apology for his "stupid" "wrong" and "bad" remark about the storm, made early Wednesday morning
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:08:25

Another New York congressman put it this way: "The bill opens the door and invites the entrance into the political field of a power so vast, so powerful as to threaten the integrity of our institutions and to pull the pillars of the temple down upon the heads of our descendants." A Republican senator from Delaware claimed that Social Security would "end the progress of a great country and bring its people to the level of the average European."


Eighty years ago, in response to Social Security.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:10:39

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Youseff » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:21:24

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
allentown wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I haven't really seen much/any racism. they just believe all that dumb socialism stuff

The sort of meanness that we've seen all along, such as the lack of decorum from the guy yelling 'you lie' during the State of the Union and the branding of Obama's tepid, moderate-Republican policies as socialist come from Republican politicians who know that their base doesn't see any problem at all with showing disrespect to any black president and feels any lie is appropriate. This whole birther conspiracy thing is really 'did you forget this guy's black'. The opposition to 'takers' and safety nets is code for "I don't want any of my tax $ supporting blacks. We have all of this made up crap about Obama sending $ to urban minority slackers, when the trail of federal revenue distribution flows from the industrial northeast, midwest, and California to the red states of the Republican south. We've moved from dog whistle alerts to fire engine sirens. The Republican base is terrified of the demographic change in America.

no, man. you're just taking shitty things the republicans did and calling them racist because Obama is black

they said Kerry was a coward in Vietnam. it was indefensible and he is white


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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Youseff » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:22:58



comparing the 47% comments to Obama's innocuous and true "You didn't build that" comment. wow.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:23:51

drsmooth wrote:Matthews leads his afternoon show with an apology for his "stupid" "wrong" and "bad" remark about the storm, made early Wednesday morning


Glad he did this.

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:24:44

I think the misconception that half the country doesn't pay a lick of taxes played a way bigger role in this contest than the misconception that black people suck

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:25:47

This whole thing is absolutely fascinating. Loving the dichotomy between between the republicans who say change is needed against the ones who want to dig in deeper against the lazy people and sluts, whoever they are.

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Youseff » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:26:28

and cheerleader Bill O'Reilly pretty clearly articulated (among others) that those 50% not paying taxes are minorities.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:27:31

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I think the misconception that half the country doesn't pay a lick of taxes played a way bigger role in this contest than the misconception that black people suck


I agree. But I think a lot of the people who are viewed as not paying taxes are also minorities. Although, as it was said a lot of that money is flowing from blue to red states.

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:28:59

CalvinBall wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I think the misconception that half the country doesn't pay a lick of taxes played a way bigger role in this contest than the misconception that black people suck


I agree. But I think a lot of the people who are viewed as not paying taxes are also minorities. Although, as it was said a lot of that money is flowing from blue to red states.

Yeah, and you're never going to explain that to someone if, instead of trying to explain it, you just say Ah, you're all a bunch of racists!

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:34:58

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I think the misconception that half the country doesn't pay a lick of taxes played a way bigger role in this contest than the misconception that black people suck


I agree. But I think a lot of the people who are viewed as not paying taxes are also minorities. Although, as it was said a lot of that money is flowing from blue to red states.

Yeah, and you're never going to explain that to someone if, instead of trying to explain it, you just say Ah, you're all a bunch of racists!

Red states have lots of minorities. The money flow by itself doesn't prove anything.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Youseff » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:35:38

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:37:20

Is there an Eatdatpussy take on the election? Seems pretty socially conservative, given that he doesn't actually, you know, eat pussy.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Wheels Tupay » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:40:41

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