Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:13:10

Calvin with the sick burn that unfortunately for him has no relation to reality

by **JUburton** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:14:55

Romney doesn't need OH, but if he doesn't get it he absolutely needs to keep VA and FL. Then he needs all of NV/CO/IA. Or get WI and 2 of them. It's hard without Ohio, but it's not impossible.

At least I think those scenarios work that way.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:16:23

jerseyhoya wrote:Calvin with the sick burn that unfortunately for him has no relation to reality

obama is going to hold onto ohio and wisconsin. this means romney is pretty screwed.

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:22:22

Hope Obama wins and loses the popular vote.

by **Soren** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:25:33

pacino wrote:Hope Obama wins and loses the popular vote.

redemption for 2000

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:26:44

I think this is the only way to get rid of the electoral college. Maybe politicians will remember that cities count.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:27:05

Key Romney foreign policy advisor and Bushco retread hack Dan Senor burbling to anyone who will listen today about Romney not ruling out negotiating with Iran

So Romney's basic platform, across the board, is boiling down to policy (as contrasted with personality) mirroring.

just waiting for him to preface a remark tonight with "let me be clear..."

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:45:01

pacino wrote:Hope Obama wins and loses the popular vote.

With the upcoming fiscal cliff negotiations and whatnot, I would have thought you'd prefer Obama having a bit of a mandate

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:47:48

what difference would it make

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:54:06

Houshphandzadeh wrote:what difference would it make

by **TomatoPie** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:01:11

State by swing state view:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/j ... ghter.html

by **traderdave** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:06:39

jerseyhoya wrote:
pacino wrote:Hope Obama wins and loses the popular vote.

With the upcoming fiscal cliff negotiations and whatnot, I would have thought you'd prefer Obama having a bit of a mandate

Just had this exact discussion with somebody over the weekend. It appears that O winning college but R winning popular is a very realistic outcome. That would be horrible, if only from an optics POV.

by **TomatoPie** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:08:18

traderdave wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
pacino wrote:Hope Obama wins and loses the popular vote.

With the upcoming fiscal cliff negotiations and whatnot, I would have thought you'd prefer Obama having a bit of a mandate

Just had this exact discussion with somebody over the weekend. It appears that O winning college but R winning popular is a very realistic outcome. That would be horrible, if only from an optics POV.

Agreed, but it's gold for comedians and pundits

by **JUburton** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:09:42

Silver has it at a 5.4% chance. Definitely possible.

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:11:44

JFLNYC wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:what difference would it make

It would make politicians care about entire swaths of the country that they currently don't give two shit about. Plus, the guy with the most votes will never again lose. It's usually a good thing to get the right guy in office.

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:13:20

jerseyhoya wrote:
pacino wrote:Hope Obama wins and loses the popular vote.

With the upcoming fiscal cliff negotiations and whatnot, I would have thought you'd prefer Obama having a bit of a mandate

He's giving away the farm anyway. No liberals allowed in the upcoming discussions.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:14:22

Houshphandzadeh wrote:what difference would it make

His people have made noises that he'll veto anything that doesn't include the Bush tax cuts expiring on wealthy tax payers, even if that means everything expiring. If he comes in having won reelection in a position of strength, it will be easier for him to win a battle of public opinion. If both sides dig in, the only thing that will get them to blink is if polling shows them getting killed. I think the only real shot of that happening is if the GOP House is seen as obstructing Obama's mandate, which loses a lot of its sting if Obama loses the popular vote.

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:14:59

Housh's rhetorical question was addressed to the mandate issue, not that of the Electoral College.

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:15:54

you really don't think Republicans will dig in either way? they dug in last time when he had a mandate

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 13:32:33

Houshphandzadeh wrote:you really don't think Republicans will dig in either way? they dug in last time when he had a mandate

As mandatey as one gets and it didn't matter. Won't now, either.

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