Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 22, 2012 09:35:27

On Tax reform, reeling in deductions really hits people below ~$250K. Above $250K you start seriously curtailing, if not completely losing, deductions on your tax forms. Who is left? The rest of us. So this approach, assuming that is what is being described because it is not public information from Romney, just sticks it to what is left of the middle class. Closing those loopholes is like tightening a rope around the neck.

Moreover, the housing market is starting to recover, but if the mortgage deduction is removed (to the cheers of Europe FWIW), then the housing recovery smashes the down elevator button and returns us to, if not puts the nation in, a worse place.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby Soren » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:02:30

thephan wrote:On Tax reform, reeling in deductions really hits people below ~$250K. Above $250K you start seriously curtailing, if not completely losing, deductions on your tax forms. Who is left? The rest of us. So this approach, assuming that is what is being described because it is not public information from Romney, just sticks it to what is left of the middle class. Closing those loopholes is like tightening a rope around the neck.

Moreover, the housing market is starting to recover, but if the mortgage deduction is removed (to the cheers of Europe FWIW), then the housing recovery smashes the down elevator button and returns us to, if not puts the nation in, a worse place.


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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:06:27

obama up 50 to 45 in ohio in cbs/quinnipiac poll today.

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:09:45

If the electorate is anything like what that poll says, Mitt can't win Ohio

Gonna just operate under the assumption that the poll is garbage because it makes me happier to do so

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:24:53

RNC chair Reince Priebus said on Monday that Mitt Romney is not tacking to the center in the last leg of the presidential campaign. Priebus chalked up Romney's bump in the polls to the fact that voters are getting to know the candidate better.

"People are liking what they are seeing with Mitt Romney," Priebus told MSNBC. "That's why we're having a lasting bump through the debates. People are seeing Mitt Romney for who he is, which is a reasonable, intelligent guy."



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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:38:41

td11 wrote:
RNC chair Reince Priebus said on Monday that Mitt Romney is not tacking to the center in the last leg of the presidential campaign. Priebus chalked up Romney's bump in the polls to the fact that voters are getting to know the candidate better.

"People are liking what they are seeing with Mitt Romney," Priebus told MSNBC. "That's why we're having a lasting bump through the debates. People are seeing Mitt Romney for who he is, which is a reasonable, intelligent guy...who has shifted substantially toward the middle on pretty much every major issue middle class voters care about."



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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:40:07

Bucky wrote:what was the most poll-defiant presidential election?


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if you consider the vote itself is a poll of sorts....
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:44:01

Yes, but in a double utley you can put your utley on top they other guy's utley, and you're the winner. (Swish)

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:47:51

yeah gas is down like 20 cents here from last week. go obama!!

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:49:28

opec wants obama back as president

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:58:24

for sure. fox used the same logic when talking about the since denied report of obama meeting with iran to talk nuclear weapons. romney would lay the hammer down or something. better talk to obama while they still have the chance!

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:07:53

Conflicting, false and misleading statements on oil production and gasoline prices have become the currency of politicians lately, as oil tops $100 per barrel and gasoline hovers near $4 per gallon. Among some of the claims that got our attention:

. Top Republicans blame President Obama’s moratorium on deepwater drilling for rising gasoline prices. The moratorium delayed drilling of some new wells, but did not affect the output of wells already in production. A projected drop in total domestic oil production this year should amount to six-tenths of 1 percent of all U.S. consumption of liquid fuels. A Wall Street oil analyst told us the moratorium has had “zero” effect on prices.
. Obama said domestic oil production last year was its highest since 2003. That’s true — but U.S. oil production is projected to drop this year.
. Rep. Kevin McCarthy said “under this administration our output has gone down 13 percent.” McCarthy is wrong — U.S. oil production was up in 2009 and 2010, and is projected to decline only 2 percent this year.
. Sarah Palin said Obama is “allowing America to remain increasingly dependent on imports” from unstable countries. But there has been a decline — not an increase — in total oil imports from Middle Eastern and African countries, as well as countries identified by the State Department as “dangerous or unstable,” since Obama took office.


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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby TomatoPie » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:29:31

jerseyhoya wrote:If the electorate is anything like what that poll says, Mitt can't win Ohio

Gonna just operate under the assumption that the poll is garbage because it makes me happier to do so


Quinnipiac polling is consistently left of reality. Barry probably is up in Ohio, but not 5 points.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby TomatoPie » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:35:05

Ranking the pollsters. Not everybody loves Nate Silver's data, but I can't find anyone rating the poll raters.

http://www.backbenchmedia.com/ranking-political-polls/
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby TomatoPie » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:37:01

It really looks like winning Ohio is the key. Mitten looks good in FL and hopeful in VA.

RCP has Barry up 2.2% in Ohio.
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:42:55

Why do you call the President "Barry"? I know that's what he was called as a child, but now it seems a derisive nickname akin to calling President Bush "Dubyah".
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby TomatoPie » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:46:28

slugsrbad wrote:Why do you call the President "Barry"? I know that's what he was called as a child, but now it seems a derisive nickname akin to calling President Bush "Dubyah".


To be fair and balanced, I also call RMoney "Mittens"
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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:53:17

TomatoPie wrote:It really looks like winning Ohio is the key. Mitten looks good in FL and hopeful in VA.

RCP has Barry up 2.2% in Ohio.

Romney needs to win at least one of Ohio or Wisconsin. Then some other stuff, but less other stiff if it's Ohio and not Wisconsin.

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:07:51

Nevada seems like it's becoming the least likely tossup state for Romney to win, and with it slipping from the board I thought the path to 269-269 and maximum chaos was disappearing

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Romney wins: FL/VA/IA/WI/NH/ME-02
Obama wins: OH/CO/NV

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Re: Binders Full of Woman: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:10:32

the path to 270 for romney is disappearing as well

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