mozartpc27 wrote:

cshort wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:Also, how can China have a counterfeit Apple store? They MAKE the damn things...

Cause someone sneaks the plans out the back door. Iran has a counterfeit Apple store too.

Well, what I mean is... can the people who make the REAL things really be accused of also making COUNTERFEIT ones? It's like saying Native Americans make counterfeit teepees.

the COUNTRY doesn't make them. An apple plant does. It's a big country with room for other plants, too.

mozartpc27 wrote:

cshort wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:Also, how can China have a counterfeit Apple store? They MAKE the damn things...

Cause someone sneaks the plans out the back door. Iran has a counterfeit Apple store too.

Well, what I mean is... can the people who make the REAL things really be accused of also making COUNTERFEIT ones? It's like saying Native Americans make counterfeit teepees.

come on , not really

moz, i have no clue what you mean with the counterfeit apple stuff.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:So you think this was a loss, jh?

I thought he was holding his own against a slew of tough questions, and then got one he should have hit out of the park and he completely fucked it up.

I dunno. I don't know what people who don't pay attention to shit think.

Guys, moz has been drinking, remember

clear wins for Obama on women's rights, immigration reform, huge on Libya, Romney's tax plan/economy, & decent win on US jobs. Pretty decisive win for Obama. We'll see what happens with the polls.

Romney berating Candy not going to win him any votes either. Really unprofessional on his part.

pacino wrote:

bleh wrote:Not that I'm complaining but this moderator was sooooo biased towards Obama. Fox news won't have to make things up to complain about for once.

lol ok? candy crowley is basically just a DC bubble person

Obama had the last word on like 10 out of 12 questions.

fox has spent 10 minutes on hte libyan answer, has yet to discuss anything else.

so that means obama won.

i thought romney held up against the fire pretty well, too. but that mostly has to do with his ability to lie and move towards the center more and more than anything

wow, so obama cut off-shore permits after the BP oil spill!!! fox news got him!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wtf???

oil nad coal production are both up, so is gas, wind, etc.

Who is that weasel looking guy on Fox who makes Al Sharpton seem likeable?

megyn kelly's haircut is TERRIBLE. you are so hotter than that, megyn

edit: oh axelrod, why do you hold onto that 'hair'?

One other debate diarrhea thought...if Obama needs to describe a) why the things he has done are good/working or b) why they will be better in the next four years to win...he's not doing that.

jerseyhoya wrote:I think it would've been about a draw if Romney didn't completely fuck up the Libya question.

Jesus christ if we ever are OK with holding the fucking town hall in the NY metro area again we deserve to always lose. Fucking hell some of those questions tonight.

just think if the crowd had actually been representative of the NYC area

pacino wrote:fox has spent 10 minutes on hte libyan answer, has yet to discuss anything else.

so that means obama won.

I flipped back and forth between msnbc and fox for a couple minutes. The liberals were basically celebrating. The right wingers were getting Talmudic with the parsing.

Even Bret Hume, in saying that Obama's record was "a heavy burden," added that he bore it "about as well as he could have."

Mark Blumenthal ‏@MysteryPollster
CBS News KN poll of 500 uncommitted voters. Who won? Obama 37, Romney 30, Tie 33

That's fine. Wonder what CNN's of everyone will say.

So Romney was for affirmative action for women, right? he brought in women to diversify his staff

jerseyhoya wrote:One other debate diarrhea thought...if Obama needs to describe a) why the things he has done are good/working or b) why they will be better in the next four years to win...he's not doing that.

I thought he defended his record much better than he has previously, or than Biden did. Maybe that's too low a bar. The problem he has obviously is that if you're too celebratory while people are still hurting, it comes off as insensitive at best and delusional at worst.

On some level I wish he had a better defined second term agenda. But I don't remember Bush doing that in 2004--Social Security privatization was only aired after he won, which might have had something to do with his winning--and given that Republicans will oppose everything he proposes anyway, even if they otherwise support it, I'm not all that perturbed about it.