Yes, they just use PC wording like "pro choice."

abort all the babies. fuck them, who needs em

for you to be against the legality of abortion would belie your supposed libertarian views.

Wheels Tupay wrote:Yes, they just use PC wording like "pro choice."

i think there is a pretty big difference in all honesty

pacino wrote:uhm, you wouldnt know since you wouldnt exist. your statement blows MY mind.

there is no reason to stigmatize abortion. the thing most people for its legality is they want it safe, legal and for there to be support for the woman and her choice. it's not my or your business, in all honesty, to stick our nose in our on her choice and wag our finger at her and make her life a living hell.

people are not for aborting everyone everywhere. they are for the legality of the option. seems pretty simple.

People do this when murder is committed.

Wheels Tupay wrote:

pacino wrote:uhm, you wouldnt know since you wouldnt exist. your statement blows MY mind.

there is no reason to stigmatize abortion. the thing most people for its legality is they want it safe, legal and for there to be support for the woman and her choice. it's not my or your business, in all honesty, to stick our nose in our on her choice and wag our finger at her and make her life a living hell.

people are not for aborting everyone everywhere. they are for the legality of the option. seems pretty simple.

People do this when murder is committed.

jesus christ


there is no legal argument that there is a human life there. there is no scientific argument that there is a human life. there is purely a spiritual one. good luck bringing up spiritual arguments in court.

ok then

Wheels Tupay wrote:

pacino wrote:uhm, you wouldnt know since you wouldnt exist. your statement blows MY mind.

there is no reason to stigmatize abortion. the thing most people for its legality is they want it safe, legal and for there to be support for the woman and her choice. it's not my or your business, in all honesty, to stick our nose in our on her choice and wag our finger at her and make her life a living hell.

people are not for aborting everyone everywhere. they are for the legality of the option. seems pretty simple.

People do this when murder is committed.

also, so you, much like ron paul, are not a real libertarian. it makes sense you would back him (unless i am mistaking you for some other poster?)

pacino wrote:for you to be against the legality of abortion would belie your supposed libertarian views.

Live and let live is a pretty big motto among libertarians.

pacino wrote:

Wheels Tupay wrote:

pacino wrote:uhm, you wouldnt know since you wouldnt exist. your statement blows MY mind.

there is no reason to stigmatize abortion. the thing most people for its legality is they want it safe, legal and for there to be support for the woman and her choice. it's not my or your business, in all honesty, to stick our nose in our on her choice and wag our finger at her and make her life a living hell.

people are not for aborting everyone everywhere. they are for the legality of the option. seems pretty simple.

People do this when murder is committed.

also, so you, much like ron paul, are not a real libertarian. it makes sense you would back him (unless i am mistaking you for some other poster?)

Correct poster

How isn't Paul a real libertarian?

i do think abortion is way more complicated than the way pacino paints it. also dont agree with wheels tupay. somewhere in the middle i guess.

he is against the legality of abortion. also, the reason he keeps getting re-elected is because he brings home the bacon, screwing with the free market.

pacino wrote:uhm, you wouldnt know since you wouldnt exist. your statement blows MY mind.

there is no reason to stigmatize abortion. the thing most people for its legality is they want it safe, legal and for there to be support for the woman and her choice. it's not my or your business, in all honesty, to stick our nose in our on her choice and wag our finger at her and make her life a living hell.

people are not for aborting everyone everywhere. they are for the legality of the option. seems pretty simple.

All I know is I'm not sticking MY nose in there after you've "wagged your finger at her."

It's mind-boggling to me that the Republicans so often fall into the trap of discussing topics that simply will not win them the election. The President is black and abortion is legal and the American people are fine with both. Deal with it.

By the way, apparently the HuffPost will be releasing a secret video soon of Paul Ryan telling an audience that his plan is to privatize Medicare. Should be fun.

CalvinBall wrote:i do think abortion is way more complicated than the way pacino paints it. also dont agree with wheels tupay. somewhere in the middle i guess.

in what way?

and how am i painting it? i fail to see why it should be illegal. it is a medical procedure. it is best done when legal and safe by a licensed professional in a clean clinic. they will happen regardless of what we do. since we are all part of the government we should make sure our citizens are as safe as possible. making it illegal would be a tremendous step back in this respect.

Doll Is Mine wrote:It's mind-boggling to me that the Republicans so often fall into the trap of discussing topics that simply will not win them the election. The President is black and abortion is legal and the American people are fine with both. Deal with it.

By the way, apparently the HuffPost will be releasing a secret video soon of Paul Ryan telling an audience that his plan is to privatize Medicare. Should be fun.

george will had a column where he basically said people aren't rejecting conservatism with this coming election, they just don't want to kick out the black guy because they'd feel guilty.

it's amazing to me that men continue to think that they should have such strong opinions on what women should do with their bodies once we've gotten them pregnant

pacino wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:It's mind-boggling to me that the Republicans so often fall into the trap of discussing topics that simply will not win them the election. The President is black and abortion is legal and the American people are fine with both. Deal with it.

By the way, apparently the HuffPost will be releasing a secret video soon of Paul Ryan telling an audience that his plan is to privatize Medicare. Should be fun.

george will had a column where he basically said people aren't rejecting conservatism with this coming election, they just don't want to kick out the black guy because they'd feel guilty.

Yeah, that's why.

Keep talking about race, Republicans.

the science proves it isn't a life thing or whatever. A newborn can't survive without someone to take care of it. My grandmom would probably die too without someone to help her. I don't believe that is justification for making it morally okay to kill a person.

And I think it is more complicated than let the woman decide. Abortions can be scarring. I think I have already mentioned it is despicable when used as some sort of form of birth control. But then there is the rape cases which I have no idea how many abortions are because of that.

Ultimately what in saying is it is complicated to me. It's more than yes or no. I don't know the answer though.

abortions are not undertaken with a spur of the moment decision. it's not deciding to go with the gals for coctails. and of course they can be scarring. that doesn't mean anything for or against the legality of the procedure, though.

nothing is killed. what happens is the cells that are starting to form together are ended before the life form can be created.

i'm not sure what you were getting at with the newborn or grandmother thing?