dajafi wrote:(though, of course, the real purpose of torture is torture)

jerseyhoya wrote:

dajafi wrote:(though, of course, the real purpose of torture is torture)

I don't really agree with anything you wrote, but I think this is particularly misguided.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:It's only a good thing to kill terrorists when there is an R next to your name. Got it.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:It's only a good thing to kill terrorists when there is an R next to your name. Got it.

I'll take it over doing nothing. I don't understand the morality behind Guantanamo=evil/anti-American/must be closed, blowing up people (often many to get at a specific bad guy)=just fine.

I'm not sure how many people believe those two things simultaneously though. A whole lot of liberals believe that both are bad and are extremely disappointed in the Obama administration on the drone strike issue. There's been a lot of angry discussion on the internet over the past couple of years. It won't stop them from voting for Obama though, because it's not like Romney would be any better.

This is the sort of thing liberals mean when they say that there are no true liberal options out there. A guy like Obama is painted as a Communist, so he moves even further to the right than he already was in 2008 (which, let's face it, wasn't that far left of the middle in the first place) to get reelected.

jerseyhoya wrote:

dajafi wrote:(though, of course, the real purpose of torture is torture)

I don't really agree with anything you wrote, but I think this is particularly misguided.

jerseyhoya wrote:Homer Bailey has been doing volunteer stuff for Romney/Ryan in Hamilton County

Karma for trying to help America helped him throw that no hitter

Werthless wrote:This is amazing to me, when Obama supporters will explain away something Obama does as "he's doing this to re-elected, but he doesn't actually believe in it," as if that makes it better, not worse.

dajafi wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

dajafi wrote:(though, of course, the real purpose of torture is torture)

I don't really agree with anything you wrote, but I think this is particularly misguided.

It's a reference (Orwell).

Though I think it's true, and that the Republican hard-on for it speaks to something ugly and frightening in the makeup of its supporters.

Torture doesn't "work" in that you get good intel; the smartest military experts have looked at this question again and again and reached that conclusion. But it's a damn fine way to prove your utter dominance over the person being tortured.

Wheels Tupay wrote:

dajafi wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

dajafi wrote:(though, of course, the real purpose of torture is torture)

I don't really agree with anything you wrote, but I think this is particularly misguided.

It's a reference (Orwell).

Though I think it's true, and that the Republican hard-on for it speaks to something ugly and frightening in the makeup of its supporters.

Torture doesn't "work" in that you get good intel; the smartest military experts have looked at this question again and again and reached that conclusion. But it's a damn fine way to prove your utter dominance over the person being tortured.

(Democrats support torture too, that's why Guantanamo Bay is still open)

dajafi wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

dajafi wrote:(though, of course, the real purpose of torture is torture)

I don't really agree with anything you wrote, but I think this is particularly misguided.

It's a reference (Orwell).

Though I think it's true, and that the Republican hard-on for it speaks to something ugly and frightening in the makeup of its supporters.

Torture doesn't "work" in that you get good intel; the smartest military experts have looked at this question again and again and reached that conclusion. But it's a damn fine way to prove your utter dominance over the person being tortured.

Despite its marketing “Atlas Shrugged Part II“ isn’t exactly a movement propaganda film; Aglialoro speaks of the “fear” in the Republican Party to “embrace capitalism.” He sees Paul Ryan’s attempt to distance himself from Rand as a capitulation, though a necessary one. “I think the real Paul Ryan would be the Paul Ryan that spoke at the Atlas Society in 2005 and said he had given books away, applauded what she did, and that he believes in a moral basis for capitalism. I believe that’s what he believes, but for some reason there is this hesitancy of accepting Ayn Rand.”

It’s fairly difficult to contract Lyme disease because “an infected tick must be attached to the skin for at least 36 hours to transmit Lyme bacteria.” For those who are effected, there is a straight-forward and effective treatments for the disease — a course of antibiotics for 2 to 4 weeks.
So what’s the point of this Romney mailer?
A highly influential social conservative in Virginia, Michael Farris, believes that people can contract “chronic Lyme disease” that must be treated with long-term antibiotics. The Center for Disease Control says there is no such thing as “chronic Lyme disease” and “long-term antibiotic treatment for Lyme disease has been associated with serious complications.”