Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:19:09

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If http://MittRomney.com/disclosure finally loads as "Never Gonna Give You Up" I swear to God I'll vote for him
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:21:42

literal LOL :lol:

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:22:37

NYT:

It is possible, however, that Mr. Rommey could still deduct the unclaimed amount of his charitable donations in future tax years, experts said.


oh
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby cshort » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:24:39

pacino wrote:
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Monkeyboy wrote:
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jerseyhoya wrote:So Mitt gives a lot of money away and pays a lot of taxes and has paid a lot of taxes every year.

Now we can go back to distracting issues like whether Americans needlessly died in Libya.



If Mitt wins, a lot more Americans will be dying needlessly, not that it matters to someone who supports the party of war and poisonous water and air.



And I forgot about the 24,000 who die from our use of coal. Better support that industry with our tax money, especially since we get over half a million asthma attacks per year on top of the deaths. Now those are results!!

Cars kill 40,000 people a year - better get rid of them too. Horses aren't as dangerous - only 20 people a year die from horse related injuries. We should probably kill Ann Romney's horse though, just in case.

There are much better options than coal. Coal sucks the life out of Appalachia.


I don't like the sweeping "let's get rid of xyz" statements, when there are ways to use a resource appropriately. Coal can be useful, and should be used in clean burning plants, while the polluting ones should be shuttered. The industry should also be required to have certain levels of responsibility wrt worker safety and the environment. For many in Appalachia, it's their only source of income-what would happen if coal leaves? West Virginia doesn't have much else. If coal can't compete on a playing field where it has the proper safety and environmental standards because of cost, then so be it. If it can, why shouldn't we use it?
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:31:05

Cutting taxes for the wealthy does not generate faster economic growth, according to a new report. But those cuts may widen the income gap between the rich and the rest, according to a new report.

A study from the Congressional Research Service -- the non-partisan research office for Congress -- shows that "there is little evidence over the past 65 years that tax cuts for the highest earners are associated with savings, investment or productivity growth."

In fact, the study found that higher tax rates for the wealthy are statistically associated with higher levels of growth.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tax-cuts- ... 49273.html
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:38:22

Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew
Mitt Romney's doctor's letter says his resting heart rate is in the 40s.

motherfucking lance armstrong level shit
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby cshort » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:39:07

td11 wrote:Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew
Mitt Romney's doctor's letter says his resting heart rate is in the 40s.

motherfucking lance armstrong level shit


Mitt's been doping
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:42:19

that would explain a lot

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby phatj » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:52:45

td11 wrote:
But those cuts may widen the income gap between the rich and the rest, according to a new report.

This seems fairly obvious
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Eddie Jordan » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:53:53

Study: Rich people like to hoard money because it allows them to buy more cool shit
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:54:11

cshort wrote:
td11 wrote:Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew
Mitt Romney's doctor's letter says his resting heart rate is in the 40s.

#$!&@ lance armstrong level #$!&@


Mitt's been doping


Well he does hang out with Paul Ryan a lot.

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby phatj » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:55:09

Heard Romney ran a marathon in 45 minutes
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:56:37

traderdave wrote:
cshort wrote:
td11 wrote:Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew
Mitt Romney's doctor's letter says his resting heart rate is in the 40s.

#$!&@ lance armstrong level #$!&@


Mitt's been doping


Well he does hang out with Paul Ryan a lot.


apparently the doc's report also said romney weighs 180 and paul ryan weighs 163

all those marathons, you know
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:58:44

traderdave wrote:I am not a fan of Scott Brown but I am with JH on this. Warren gamed the system and she is getting called on it. It goes to the integrity of the candidate. Now I am not saying this would keep me from voting for her vs. Brown but people wanted to make a federal case out of Ryan lying about a marathon time; this Warren thing is cut from the same clothe.

I think there's a clear distinction between using your (alleged) family history to your advantage and flat-out lying. I'm a runner, so the marathon time thing pisses me off, and I'll admit that it's somewhat silly and irrational, but true nonetheless. Runners don't lie about their times, period. Nor do they "forget" by more than an hour the only time they ran a marathon. I might not have my half-marathon PR down to the precise second, but I could give you a very close ballpark figure off the top of my head (1:33). Again though, it matters more to runners than it would to the masses.

But OTOH I will say that the thing that should bother non-runners more about it was how freaking unnecessary it was for him to lie about it. I mean, he didn't just lie about the time--he made it sound like he had run many. 99% of the listening audience (all 200 of them) would've been like "he ran a marathon--that's awesome!" Probably 95% wouldn't even have the slightest idea if 4 hours was a really good time or not. And for the record, 4 hours IS a good time. It's still faster than the average national marathon finish. But sub-3:00 is elite among non-professionals. Less than 5% of people who run marathons can claim to have run a marathon that fast. That's Boston-qualifying-fast.

If he's willing to casually lie about something so stupid, why can we trust him on other things?
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Eddie Jordan » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:59:04

I heard Paul Ryan can bench 400 lbs
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Sep 21, 2012 15:59:44

td11 wrote:Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew
Mitt Romney's doctor's letter says his resting heart rate is in the 40s.

#$!&@ lance armstrong level #$!&@

It's because he doesn't have a human heart.

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Eddie Jordan » Fri Sep 21, 2012 16:01:39

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
traderdave wrote:I am not a fan of Scott Brown but I am with JH on this. Warren gamed the system and she is getting called on it. It goes to the integrity of the candidate. Now I am not saying this would keep me from voting for her vs. Brown but people wanted to make a federal case out of Ryan lying about a marathon time; this Warren thing is cut from the same clothe.

I think there's a clear distinction between using your (alleged) family history to your advantage and flat-out lying. I'm a runner, so the marathon time thing pisses me off, and I'll admit that it's somewhat silly and irrational, but true nonetheless. Runners don't lie about their times, period. Nor do they "forget" by more than an hour the only time they ran a marathon. I might not have my half-marathon PR down to the precise second, but I could give you a very close ballpark figure off the top of my head (1:33). Again though, it matters more to runners than it would to the masses.

But OTOH I will say that the thing that should bother non-runners more about it was how freaking unnecessary it was for him to lie about it. I mean, he didn't just lie about the time--he made it sound like he had run many. 99% of the listening audience (all 200 of them) would've been like "he ran a marathon--that's awesome!" Probably 95% wouldn't even have the slightest idea if 4 hours was a really good time or not.

If he's willing to casually lie about something so stupid, why can we trust him on other things?


She lied to gain an advantage, it's wrong, but you can at least see her motive. Paul Ryan lied for no reason,it had no real benefit, bizarre stuff.
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Sep 21, 2012 16:01:42

I generally couldn't care less what Obama, Romney, or Warren did when they were in college or shortly after. Didn't Brown pose nude in a magazine when he was younger? Who cares?

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 21, 2012 16:04:12

Eddie Jordan wrote:
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traderdave wrote:I am not a fan of Scott Brown but I am with JH on this. Warren gamed the system and she is getting called on it. It goes to the integrity of the candidate. Now I am not saying this would keep me from voting for her vs. Brown but people wanted to make a federal case out of Ryan lying about a marathon time; this Warren thing is cut from the same clothe.

I think there's a clear distinction between using your (alleged) family history to your advantage and flat-out lying. I'm a runner, so the marathon time thing pisses me off, and I'll admit that it's somewhat silly and irrational, but true nonetheless. Runners don't lie about their times, period. Nor do they "forget" by more than an hour the only time they ran a marathon. I might not have my half-marathon PR down to the precise second, but I could give you a very close ballpark figure off the top of my head (1:33). Again though, it matters more to runners than it would to the masses.

But OTOH I will say that the thing that should bother non-runners more about it was how freaking unnecessary it was for him to lie about it. I mean, he didn't just lie about the time--he made it sound like he had run many. 99% of the listening audience (all 200 of them) would've been like "he ran a marathon--that's awesome!" Probably 95% wouldn't even have the slightest idea if 4 hours was a really good time or not.

If he's willing to casually lie about something so stupid, why can we trust him on other things?


She lied to gain an advantage, it's wrong, but you can at least see her motive. Paul Ryan lied for no reason,it had no real benefit, bizarre stuff.


i just read her wiki article looking for the context. It said she listed herself that way in the faculty directory. Is there more?? IS WIKIPEDIA WRONG????

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Sep 21, 2012 16:07:10

Eddie Jordan wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
traderdave wrote:I am not a fan of Scott Brown but I am with JH on this. Warren gamed the system and she is getting called on it. It goes to the integrity of the candidate. Now I am not saying this would keep me from voting for her vs. Brown but people wanted to make a federal case out of Ryan lying about a marathon time; this Warren thing is cut from the same clothe.

I think there's a clear distinction between using your (alleged) family history to your advantage and flat-out lying. I'm a runner, so the marathon time thing pisses me off, and I'll admit that it's somewhat silly and irrational, but true nonetheless. Runners don't lie about their times, period. Nor do they "forget" by more than an hour the only time they ran a marathon. I might not have my half-marathon PR down to the precise second, but I could give you a very close ballpark figure off the top of my head (1:33). Again though, it matters more to runners than it would to the masses.

But OTOH I will say that the thing that should bother non-runners more about it was how freaking unnecessary it was for him to lie about it. I mean, he didn't just lie about the time--he made it sound like he had run many. 99% of the listening audience (all 200 of them) would've been like "he ran a marathon--that's awesome!" Probably 95% wouldn't even have the slightest idea if 4 hours was a really good time or not.

If he's willing to casually lie about something so stupid, why can we trust him on other things?


She lied to gain an advantage, it's wrong, but you can at least see her motive. Paul Ryan lied for no reason,it had no real benefit, bizarre stuff.

I don't even know that we can call Warren's a lie. If her grandmother really did tell her that (and we can never know that), then at most it's misleading but not an outright lie. But yeah, at least there was a motivation for her to do it. If there was preferential treatment for people with Irish heritage, every jackass with redish hair would be claiming to be Irish (like they already do on St. Patty's Day).

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