It hasn't exactly been a great week of polling for Mitt Romney, but a new finding from the conservative-leaning Rasmussen polling firm might top the week of bad news.

The poll finds that President Obama leads Republican nominee Mitt Romney, 47 percent to 45 percent, to handle the issue of job creation. It's an issue that 95 percent of voters said that the issue will be important to them when they vote this November.

The poll shows that despite some less-than-stellar jobs reports this summer — including one last week — Romney still is having trouble turning the election into an economic referendum on Obama.

td11 wrote:so it really doesn't seem to me like the egypt embassy "shit the bed" last night at all. they were trying to get out ahead of the impending insanity.

jerseyhoya wrote:

td11 wrote:so it really doesn't seem to me like the egypt embassy "shit the bed" last night at all. they were trying to get out ahead of the impending insanity.

Inside the Public Relations Disaster at the Cairo Embassy

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

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Before the embassies were attacked (source)… there were protests outside of the two embassies and the Cairo embassy released this statement HERE:

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

That was before any attack …. that was during a demonstration and protest. It then escalated from there and the attack ensued. Seeing an opportunity to turn around the narrative of Romney’s flailing campaign – the Romney campaign sent this statement out WHILE AMERICANS WERE BEING ATTACKED:

“I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

The response was not from the Obama administration – it was from the Cairo embassy. So – he’s lying again. Then at the same time Americans were being attacked …. Romney senior foreign policy advisor Rich Williamson gives an extensive interview to Foreign Policy where he attacked President Obama for the events HERE:

The attacks Tuesday on two U.S. diplomatic posts were directly related to “the loss of American leadership and prestige throughout the Middle East because of the Obama administration’s failed policies in that region,” Williamson said in an extensive interview late Tuesday evening.

Then the head of the Republican National Committee tweets this:

Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt.Sad and pathetic.

— Reince Priebus (@Reince) September 12, 2012

This morning President Obama gave a statement on the attacks:

“Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives. I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe.”


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dajafi wrote:Thanks for the link, jh. Interesting stuff.

Mittens looks shameless and opportunistic here, but that's nothing new. And I kind of doubt this will move very many votes either way. It does seem to underline the divide between the hardcore right with their narrative of Obama as a craven weakling and the rest of us who see a pretty conventional foreign policy chief executive, but that's also nothing new and I can't imagine undecided voters will decide on those grounds.

td11 wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

td11 wrote:so it really doesn't seem to me like the egypt embassy "shit the bed" last night at all. they were trying to get out ahead of the impending insanity.

Inside the Public Relations Disaster at the Cairo Embassy

thanks. the schwartz dude obviously went rogue, but he was under some stress and his actions are understandable, imo. the romney campaign's handling of this has been infinitely worse, just amateurishly bad. and he did the same jumping the gun thing when hillary was trying to handle the chen situation.

and how the fuck is this an apology in any way shape or form:

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

td11 wrote:he answered your last two questions on that interview just from the excerpts that i've seen so far. he said "they are not an ally, but they are also not an enemy. they are a new govt trying to find their way" (not exact words). also said we can't just "pull out of the world" in response to the foreign aid question.

jerseyhoya wrote:

td11 wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

td11 wrote:so it really doesn't seem to me like the egypt embassy "shit the bed" last night at all. they were trying to get out ahead of the impending insanity.

Inside the Public Relations Disaster at the Cairo Embassy

thanks. the schwartz dude obviously went rogue, but he was under some stress and his actions are understandable, imo. the romney campaign's handling of this has been infinitely worse, just amateurishly bad. and he did the same jumping the gun thing when hillary was trying to handle the chen situation.

and how the fuck is this an apology in any way shape or form:

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

What's So Hard About Saying, "In the United States, we are not in the business of approving these messages"?

The Cairo Embassy's Self-Defeating Statement on "Religious Incitement"

A couple good, short posts I thought from Reason. The first defending the principle, the second pointing out how it's a bad idea in practice.

In point of fact, making a movie commenting on the sexual proclivities of someone who died some fourteen hundred years ago in no way constitutes "incitement" under any meaningful use of the term.