Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Soren » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:53:06

TenuredVulture wrote:
Soren wrote:I blame Republicans.


Certainly, the new breed of stretch pants wearing Republicans, who elevate their wishes over the realities of mathematics and chased all the country club types out deserve a lot of blame.


I was just being an ass, but I'll quote you and pretend to be smarter and more informed than I actually am
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Sep 13, 2012 13:18:49

Florida found ONE ILLEGAL VOTER. Dude was Canadian.

Colorado found one guy who was mistakenly registered by the DMV itself, not by himself.


WE ARE ERADICATING VOTER FRAUD!!!!!
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby allentown » Thu Sep 13, 2012 13:29:03

The makers of this film and trailer, the translator, and those who posted this need to be investigated. There apparently is no Sam Bacile. There apparently are no Jewish investors. The guy pretending to be Bacile is apparently neither Israeli nor Jewish. This is beginning to sound like a plot to spark violence against the few remaining Jews in the Arab countries. Not quite sure why a Coptic Christian would want to do this. It is likely to rebound against the Copts in Egypt. There was a lot of mischief afoot in the making and distribution of this trailer. The actors and production crew were duped about what they were making and words were dubbed over their images without their knowledge or consent, conceivably making them targets.
We now know that Amaro really is running the Phillies. He and Monty seem to have ignored the committee.
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Sep 13, 2012 13:41:03

To say where things went off the rails with Egypt, aside from going against the guidance of the parent organization - you know - the state department, the problem really is the part about September 11. That is just dumb and disconnected The first part is fine.
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Sep 13, 2012 14:07:18

Mitt Romney has reached a new low, in my opinion. Attacking a US embassy staff during a crisis for simply trying to defuse danger is despicable.

The guy is a dick.

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Thu Sep 13, 2012 14:41:06

TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Fed announces open ended QE3


As a Citibank stockholder, I applaud this move.

Why do you own Citi stock?

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Sep 13, 2012 14:41:52

Doll Is Mine wrote:Mitt Romney has reached a new low, in my opinion. Attacking a US embassy staff during a crisis for simply trying to defuse danger is despicable.

The guy is a dick.

How do you feel about the Obama administration throwing them under the bus?

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby allentown » Thu Sep 13, 2012 14:55:13

jerseyhoya wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:Mitt Romney has reached a new low, in my opinion. Attacking a US embassy staff during a crisis for simply trying to defuse danger is despicable.

The guy is a dick.

How do you feel about the Obama administration throwing them under the bus?

How did Obama administration throw them under the bus? The guy still has a job after issuing a statement he was specifically ordered not to issue and then issuing a running series of tweets about it. It is different to just issue a statement, believing you are acting in exigency and doing what you think your bosses would want, had they been there, and doing what this guy did -- submitting it for approval, being ordered to make revisions, and then issuing it without revision.
We now know that Amaro really is running the Phillies. He and Monty seem to have ignored the committee.
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Sep 13, 2012 15:09:24

jerseyhoya wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:Mitt Romney has reached a new low, in my opinion. Attacking a US embassy staff during a crisis for simply trying to defuse danger is despicable.

The guy is a dick.

How do you feel about the Obama administration throwing them under the bus?


:lol:

Is that what they did? I suggest you check again.

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Sep 13, 2012 15:12:37

td11 wrote:I refuse to believe it cost 5 million to make.

$150K to make movie, $4.85MM funneled to Israel?

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Sep 13, 2012 15:14:20

Werthless wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Fed announces open ended QE3


As a Citibank stockholder, I applaud this move.

Why do you own Citi stock?



My brother in law, who works for Citibank, told me it was at bottom. And yes, it was as stupid as it sounds, though he's lost a lot more money with Citibank stock than I have. I guess it would sound smarter to say it was a contrarian investment. It only needs to get to 42 before it's a winner for me.

I also hold gold, and as gold holder, I really applaud this move.
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Sep 13, 2012 15:38:12

se cupp or krystall ball?

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Thu Sep 13, 2012 15:49:27

dana loesch, honorable mention.

alex wagner is my favorite, though
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Sep 13, 2012 15:53:33

Bucky wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Fed announces open ended QE3


As a Citibank stockholder, I applaud this move.



someone please interpret tia

Paul owns a bank.
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Sep 13, 2012 15:55:35

td11 wrote:Nate silver tweeted the other day that under Obama we have killed the al qaeda #2 man 17 times

WHY... WON'T... HE... STAY... DEAD?!!
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Thu Sep 13, 2012 16:01:47

td11 wrote:dana loesch, honorable mention.

alex Wanger is my favorite, though


No love for Tamron Hall?

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Sep 13, 2012 16:09:50

Pundits completely miscalled the Dutch election. Geert Wilders's Freedom Party (anti-immigrant, and recently anti-EU) got crushed.
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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Thu Sep 13, 2012 16:10:34

allentown wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:Mitt Romney has reached a new low, in my opinion. Attacking a US embassy staff during a crisis for simply trying to defuse danger is despicable.

The guy is a dick.

How do you feel about the Obama administration throwing them under the bus?

How did Obama administration throw them under the bus? The guy still has a job after issuing a statement he was specifically ordered not to issue and then issuing a running series of tweets about it. It is different to just issue a statement, believing you are acting in exigency and doing what you think your bosses would want, had they been there, and doing what this guy did -- submitting it for approval, being ordered to make revisions, and then issuing it without revision.

Truman had a plaque on his desk: "The Buck Stops Here." In the same way that CEOs are ultimately responsible for everything that happens in their organization, Obama is responsible for the official statements said by his representatives. You wouldn't want a CEO to argue "Well, I told him not to do this. It's his fault." It's throwing the guy under the bus, publicly, to avoid direct blame for the activity.

If the guy is not doing a good job representing the President, then he shouldn't have that job. That he wasn't fired reflects a lack of accountability, not lack of blame.

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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu Sep 13, 2012 16:36:03


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Re: Don't Fact Check Me, Bro: The Politics Thread

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Thu Sep 13, 2012 16:41:23

Werthless wrote:
allentown wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:Mitt Romney has reached a new low, in my opinion. Attacking a US embassy staff during a crisis for simply trying to defuse danger is despicable.

The guy is a dick.

How do you feel about the Obama administration throwing them under the bus?

How did Obama administration throw them under the bus? The guy still has a job after issuing a statement he was specifically ordered not to issue and then issuing a running series of tweets about it. It is different to just issue a statement, believing you are acting in exigency and doing what you think your bosses would want, had they been there, and doing what this guy did -- submitting it for approval, being ordered to make revisions, and then issuing it without revision.

Truman had a plaque on his desk: "The Buck Stops Here."

He also blamed congress for everything bad that ever happened
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