Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:06:54

Ha, southerners. We gotta learn 'em stuff.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 13:05:13

Werthless wrote:Ha, southerners. We gotta learn 'em stuff.


they're "learned stuff" from the likes of rupert murdoch. Where else do you imagine they get lunatic notions like the POTUS being muslim? They aren't getting that kind of notion from any resource that is partial to things like facts.

no, it's too difficult to "learn them", and more fun to ridicule them (stupidity can be funny)
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby lethal » Tue Mar 13, 2012 14:02:00

Has there been a poll conducted with the question of whether Obama is a Muslim is followed up by why that's important? What's wrong with practicing the religion of Islam?

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 14:20:55

lethal wrote:Has there been a poll conducted with the question of whether Obama is a Muslim is followed up by why that's important? What's wrong with practicing the religion of Islam?


silly, "muslim"="black"="alien"
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby thephan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 14:27:12

Come on, we all know that some horrible portion of the population has no idea the difference between a religious group and a splinter of that group bent on doing harm. There is more to it with the extreme Christian movement which sees this as a war against Islam, where I am sure that there is an extreme Islamic group that sees fighting about waging war against invading Christians. If it were only so simple, but it is all too wrong.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby lethal » Tue Mar 13, 2012 14:59:42

thephan wrote:Come on, we all know that some horrible portion of the population has no idea the difference between a religious group and a splinter of that group bent on doing harm. There is more to it with the extreme Christian movement which sees this as a war against Islam, where I am sure that there is an extreme Islamic group that sees fighting about waging war against invading Christians. If it were only so simple, but it is all too wrong.


Sure, but maybe poll to capture what that percentage is and if there is a lot of overlap with the percentage of people who still think Obama is 1) a Muslim or 2) not born in the U.S.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Mar 13, 2012 15:13:21

The problem with polls asking whether Obama is a Muslim

(This reminds me of everyone talking about Blanton-to-the-Jays scenarios. It's not going to happen, but now that we're talking about these false rumors, it's developing from "pure speculation" into "rumor".)

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Mar 13, 2012 15:18:12

drsmooth wrote: Where else do you imagine they get lunatic notions like the POTUS being muslim? They aren't getting that kind of notion from any resource that is partial to things like facts.

The more times a false claim is repeated, the more likely people are to be exposed to it. The fewer people exposed to a false claim, the less likely it is to spread. It is also important not to repeat false claims because people are more likely to judge familiar claims as true. As false claims are repeated, they become more familiar and thus may come to seem more true to people.

While conservative radio does nothing to dispel these rumors, Democratic pollsters asking these ridiculous questions do not help either. There's enough blame to spread around.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby thephan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 16:25:46

I need to get down to Florida to see what the hubbub is in my Mother-in-laws retirement community. The people there are avid listeners to the crazies and readers of rumors. I have heard just about everything over the years from true believers, but I have not been down recently to get the latest. I cannot get on the phone and ask because I will be killed in my sleep, but what people say around the card table she cannot stop.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 17:20:43

fun graph:

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Meltzer, WSJ: "see? income inequality is rising everywhere! that means US tax policy can't be driving inequality in the US"

Bruce Bartlett, guy who actually knows stuff: "If the rich get richer in low-tax and high-tax countries alike, then tax rates have much less disincentive effect on the rich than Meltzer types insist"
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 17:30:00

Werthless wrote:While conservative radio does nothing to dispel these rumors, Democratic pollsters asking these ridiculous questions do not help either. There's enough blame to spread around.


"these rumors", is it?

Look at that - they've even fucked up someone with what resembles an intellect.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Mar 13, 2012 17:46:38

Ha, yeah. Sloppy wording. "Manufactured rumors" if you so please.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 18:57:33

Werthless wrote:Ha, yeah. Sloppy wording. "Manufactured rumors" if you so please.



lies. What they are is lies.

But you're correct. My wording was sloppy. If there is such a thing as genuine intellect, you've got it, maybe even more than your share. I'm sorry.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Mar 13, 2012 19:05:46

I don't get upset by your run-of-the-mill insults. They don't even register anymore.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Tue Mar 13, 2012 19:22:48

Ipsos/Reuters has Obama's approval at 50 now. Pretty much coming to the conclusion all polling is volatile right now.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Tue Mar 13, 2012 20:32:53

Oh my god count the fucking votes already

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Polar Bear Phan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 20:45:44

jerseyhoya wrote:Oh my god count the fucking votes already


Pretty sure New Hampshire had around 50% counted by now. Mississippi has 50 votes counted.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 20:49:08

Werthless wrote:I don't get upset by your run-of-the-mill insults. They don't even register anymore.


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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 20:51:44

jerseyhoya wrote:Oh my god count the fucking votes already


for the love of heaven whatever else you do around here don't insult the intelligence of southerners
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby dajafi » Tue Mar 13, 2012 21:04:57

jerseyhoya wrote:Oh my god count the #$!&@ votes already


Frustrating for us. But it has to be agonizing for the cable news producers.

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