Full of Passionate Intensity: POLITICS THREAD

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 03, 2009 20:26:52

wait elliot spitzer?

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 20:30:31

Yes

McDonnell is up 2-1 early, but a lot of what's coming in is western VA. Still this thing doesn't look like it's going to be close.

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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 03, 2009 20:59:52

msnbc says mcdonnell

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:01:12

McDonnell up early in VA-11. I'd really like if McDonnell could win VA-11.

I think he's going to win this thing by 15%.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:08:16

In New Jersey, CNN's exit poll says Christie won independents 58-33 over Corzine, with indies making up 27 percent of the electorate.


Looks like Daggett's numbers fell off a cliff. Too bad there are so many more Democrats. I think this is going to be really close.

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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:15:45

how can two governor races 8 months after inauguration possibly be a referendum on obama?

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:19:08

Image

Close, really really close

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:25:00

If I'm a Republican, and I care about the long term health of the party, that 18-30 year old number scares the shit out of me. Considering new voters are considered most persuadable, the fact that even in given Corzine's incredibly low approval rating you can capture more than 30% of those voters is a bad sign. A very bad sign.

If those kind of numbers persist, you might see a last Republican hurrah in 2010, but that will be it.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:28:48

With less than half a percent in, given your early list of counties, the Gloucester Co. numbers have to be discouraging for Christie However, with .9 percent in Monmouth county, that looks a little better. Unless it's something like Colts Neck reporting.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:31:19

Wow, Monmouth looks great

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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:32:30

If I'm not mistaking, that is how it has long been. Young people rarely vote Republican.

I was very nervous for a minute because Corzine had a huge percentage in Gloucester. I then realized only 1% or so had reported. :oops:

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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:37:40

Christie now leading in Gloucester (19.4% in).

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:38:47

gpicaro wrote:If I'm not mistaking, that is how it has long been. Young people rarely vote Republican.

I was very nervous for a minute because Corzine had a huge percentage in Gloucester. I then realized only 1% or so had reported. :oops:


Christie now has a slim lead in Gloucester.

And losing the youth vote by huge margins is a huge problem for the Republicans. Party ID tends to be stable by the time a voter is 25 or so--Republicans do well over the last 20 years because of large numbers of "Reagan Youth" who started voting Republican in the 80s.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:43:44

http://www.co.monmouth.nj.us/ElectionResults/Election%20Result.htm

Christie up 62-30% in Monmouth with 50% in

That's a great number. Could balance out something elsewhere.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:45:10

Big chunk of ocean county in on the politico sight really shifted things in Christie's favor.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:47:01

JH, in Monmouth and Ocean, the only Democratic areas are Asbury and Lakewood right? Long Branch has gone more or less Republican, thanks to eminent domain.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:52:02

Up 2% in Bergen with 20% in

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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:54:21

More numbers in (about 12% total). Christie with a 51-42 lead, but many Democratic counties still out there. The only really worrisome area at the moment seems to be Atlantic County (only 1.8% in though) where Corzine has a 84-13 lead.

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Postby cshort » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:55:41

TenuredVulture wrote:If I'm a Republican, and I care about the long term health of the party, that 18-30 year old number scares the $#@! out of me. Considering new voters are considered most persuadable, the fact that even in given Corzine's incredibly low approval rating you can capture more than 30% of those voters is a bad sign. A very bad sign.

If those kind of numbers persist, you might see a last Republican hurrah in 2010, but that will be it.


I don't think it's as bad as you think. Once they start making money, the young become more conservative. Happened to a friend of mine that was a born and bred Boston liberal. Once he started making six figures he realized he wanted to actually hang on to some of his money, and he started moving much closer to the center, and on fiscal issues, to the right of center.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:57:09

cshort wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:If I'm a Republican, and I care about the long term health of the party, that 18-30 year old number scares the $#@! out of me. Considering new voters are considered most persuadable, the fact that even in given Corzine's incredibly low approval rating you can capture more than 30% of those voters is a bad sign. A very bad sign.

If those kind of numbers persist, you might see a last Republican hurrah in 2010, but that will be it.


I don't think it's as bad as you think. Once they start making money, the young become more conservative. Happened to a friend of mine that was a born and bred Boston liberal. Once he started making six figures he realized he wanted to actually hang on to some of his money, and he started moving much closer to the center, and on fiscal issues, to the right of center.


OK, your n size of one doesn't prove anything. And second, most people don't make 6 figure salaries. So, if Republicans are counting on people making 6 figures and old southerners, they aren't gonna win many elections.
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