Full of Passionate Intensity: POLITICS THREAD

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:58:04

gotta go with the prof here.

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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:59:50

christie is up 3 percent in Gloucester with 85 percent in

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:00:04

Christie is hanging an absurd number on the board in Ocean

Up 65-28 with 60% in. 45k vote spread. No joke when I say he might cancel out all of Essex with Ocean.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:01:57

I think it's almost time to call NJ for Christie. It's not gonna be all that close.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:02:12

Christie not doing as well as I would have thought in Cape May County. Up 14%. Better than Forrester did I guess, but not by much.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:02:36

TenuredVulture wrote:I think it's almost time to call NJ for Christie. It's not gonna be all that close.


Need to see more from Bergen, and something from Middlesex and Mercer.

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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:03:35

i feel bad for new jersey no matter who wins.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:05:05

What is Christie going to cut? Can he raise taxes, or cancel homestead rebataes or something like that?
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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:05:11

I really don't like Corzine being up by 28% in Atlantic even if it's only 18% reporting.

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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:07:33

Wait a minute... Christie up by 12% in Union and only down by 6% in Camden?!?

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:09:49

The percentages have tightened up, but the total margin hasn't really shrunk. It's over.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:09:50

It seems like Corzine is doing fine in Essex. This is going to be super close. Christie is going to have to run up the margins in Morris like he has in Monmouth and Ocean.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:11:22

Christie is ahead in Bergen and Union. He's won.
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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:12:06

Come on Burlington. What's taking us so long?

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:12:47

gpicaro wrote:Come on Burlington. What's taking us so long?


You can't drive fast on dirt roads.
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Postby cshort » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:12:50

TenuredVulture wrote:
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TenuredVulture wrote:If I'm a Republican, and I care about the long term health of the party, that 18-30 year old number scares the $#@! out of me. Considering new voters are considered most persuadable, the fact that even in given Corzine's incredibly low approval rating you can capture more than 30% of those voters is a bad sign. A very bad sign.

If those kind of numbers persist, you might see a last Republican hurrah in 2010, but that will be it.


I don't think it's as bad as you think. Once they start making money, the young become more conservative. Happened to a friend of mine that was a born and bred Boston liberal. Once he started making six figures he realized he wanted to actually hang on to some of his money, and he started moving much closer to the center, and on fiscal issues, to the right of center.


OK, your n size of one doesn't prove anything. And second, most people don't make 6 figure salaries. So, if Republicans are counting on people making 6 figures and old southerners, they aren't gonna win many elections.


Give me a break, that was just a personal example - Boston libs are usually pretty set in their ways. I think if you look at trends, people tend to get more conservative as they age. According to Slate, in 2006, almost 25% of the electorate made >$100,000, and their shift to the left helped the Democrats take control. Not a majority, but certainly impactful.

Many people vote with their pocketbook, they see how things will impact their children and their retirement. Most 18-30 year-olds don't concern themselves with those issues. When they're in their 30's and 40's, attitudes change. Not saying everyone does, but I'll bet there's still a sizable shift to the right once they hit that age bracket.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:13:19

TenuredVulture wrote:Christie is ahead in Bergen and Union. He's won.


Only 23% in in Union. Could be the Westfields of the world, and nothing from Union or Elizabeth.

BTW, McDonnell fucking destroyed Deeds. Jesus.

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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:14:17

TenuredVulture wrote:Christie is ahead in Bergen and Union. He's won.


Bergen isn't too shocking to me because they do vote Republican, but I am absolutely stunned about Union. I don't expect it to stay this way though.

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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:17:11

Plus, Corzine's people are probably saying the same thing about Atlantic that we are about Union.

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Postby gpicaro » Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:23:52

Christie won Gloucester 47.3% to 43.9%

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