I'm not gonna debate you, Jerry! Politics thread.

by **pacino** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 22:59:36

TenuredVulture wrote:I love the death tax!

it's a smart tax

by **FlightRisk** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 22:59:46

COMMUNITY ORGANIZER!!!!!?!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYzunr48CTg&feature=related[/youtube]

by **Bakestar** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 22:59:57

These RNC types reaaallllllly identify with "the working man," huh?

by **seke2** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:00:06

yeah this is definitely going to rally the conservative base
i don't think it's going to swing the undecided and independents

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:00:23

mpmcgraw wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Honestly, I think this speech has been just short of awesome.

ill chalk this one up with thinking Eli is a good QB

He won the Super Bowl.

We're gonna win an election. Or at least come way closer than we deserve considering how unpopular Bush is. You won't think it's pretty. You won't understand it, but it's life, chump.

She's giving a good speech right now. And everyone here is trashing it. EVERYONE. Jesus. You guys are just in an alternative world here.

by **howardfan6** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:00:25

jerseyhoya wrote:Honestly, I think this speech has been just short of awesome.

are you mcnabbmcnow character from the philaphans board by any chance?

That speech was nothing short of brutal. As a dem I am very pleased with McCain's pick for VP!

by **VoxOrion** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:00:34

TheDude24 wrote:it looks like lately the Republicans hate the Democratic candidates much more than vice versa.

Have you read the past six pages of this thread?

by **Woody** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:00:55

TheDude24 wrote:I could see this speech as appealing to Republicans, but not independent or undecided voters - voters who might be leaning slightly towards Obama. Correct me if I'm wrong but this speech just seems insulting to them.
I'm sure I'm biased, but it looks like lately the Republicans hate the Democratic candidates much more than vice versa.

You're right. It's like she's yucking it up at a private gathering. In all seriousness, this is one of the most snarky things I've ever seen, from a woman who no one even knew existed one month ago. I can't see this helping

by **TenuredVulture** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:01:02

VoxOrion wrote:
TheDude24 wrote:it looks like lately the Republicans hate the Democratic candidates much more than vice versa.

Have you read the past six pages of this thread?

We kid because we love.

by **Bakestar** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:01:15

TheDude24 wrote:I could see this speech as appealing to Republicans, but not independent or undecided voters - voters who might be leaning slightly towards Obama. Correct me if I'm wrong but this speech just seems insulting to them.
I'm sure I'm biased, but it looks like lately the Republicans hate the Democratic candidates much more than vice versa.

Because the Democrats actually like their candidate this time...

by **pacino** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:01:33

Woody wrote:
TheDude24 wrote:I could see this speech as appealing to Republicans, but not independent or undecided voters - voters who might be leaning slightly towards Obama. Correct me if I'm wrong but this speech just seems insulting to them.
I'm sure I'm biased, but it looks like lately the Republicans hate the Democratic candidates much more than vice versa.

You're right. It's like she's yucking it up at a private gathering. In all seriousness, this is one of the most snarky things I've ever seen, from a woman who no one even knew existed one month ago. I can't see this helping

she's stephen colbert, if stephen colbert was a real person

it's weird to hear her call it the 'do nothing' senate...what can they do? and don't conservatives like 'do nothing' government?

by **Trent Steele** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:02:59

I love ya jersey, but you're off your rocker on this one. She's an absolute disaster in just about every way possible (except in appealing to other absolute disasters, which is the point, I suppose).

by **TenuredVulture** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:03:02

Anyway, the real problem with all this is that we really haven't hear any reason to vote for McCain, other than that he's not Obama.

by **Camp Holdout** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:03:12

jerseyhoya wrote:
mpmcgraw wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Honestly, I think this speech has been just short of awesome.

ill chalk this one up with thinking Eli is a good QB

He won the Super Bowl.

We're gonna win an election. Or at least come way closer than we deserve considering how unpopular Bush is. You won't think it's pretty. You won't understand it, but it's life, chump.

She's giving a good speech right now. And everyone here is trashing it. EVERYONE. Jesus. You guys are just in an alternative world here.

im not trying to be a hater or condescending or anything right now.. but... this is actually a very very bad speech. like, it actually is. i wish i could get some kind of alien to come down and type this for me so you could tell that i am not tainted. i thought Fred Thompson gave a great speech yesterday, i didnt agree with a word he said, but i thought he dd a good job. this palin speech is really very bad and does nothing to show that she has any kind of experience to lead this country.

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:03:31

howardfan6 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Honestly, I think this speech has been just short of awesome.

are you mcnabbmcnow character from the philaphans board by any chance?

That speech was nothing short of brutal. As a dem I am very pleased with McCain's pick for VP!

I don't post on philaphans. I'm not retarded.

by **Woody** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:03:36

the cajones on this chick. she's really trying hard to appeal to the good ole boy network she claims to despise

by **Woody** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:04:33

J-Mc, J-Mc, he's our man!
If he can't lay pipe, I sure can!

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:04:59

Trent Steele wrote:I love ya jersey, but you're off your rocker on this one. She's an absolute disaster in just about every way possible (except in appealing to other absolute disasters, which is the point, I suppose).

Trent, I actually care about what you think. I'll watch the recap on CNN. Honestly, I think she's done a good job. I'm not shilling here. I don't get paid enough to shill. I think she's done quite a good job.

I'll see what the pros think, and not cocoon in the comforts of Fox.

by **seke2** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:05:20

TenuredVulture wrote:Anyway, the real problem with all this is that we really haven't hear any reason to vote for McCain, other than that he's not Obama.

that's pretty much been the thrust of the rep campaign so far.
"our guy sucks less, vote mccain"

i don't think this speech is horrid or anything, i just think she hasn't:
1) brought anything new to the table
2) addressed any of the many questions or concerns that people have about her, in specific
3) done anything to convince someone on the fence to vote republican

this is basically her biggest chance to convince the country that SHE personally is ready and qualified to lead the country, and she has NOT done that.

by **pacino** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 23:05:37

bush was better

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