Camp Holdout wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:What is wrong with being a community organizer? This is a weird Republican attack.

its a community full of elitists though... damn

I thought they were people who had just lost factory jobs. Maybe there were elitist assembly line workers.

howardfan6 wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

howardfan6 wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

Woody wrote:

seke2 wrote:[x] use of special needs kid as prop

That's kind of dumb too. It's still her kid and the whole family is on stage

BUT IT"S NOT HER KID IT"S HER GRAND KID ZOMG STUPID LIBERAL RUMOR DESIGNED TO PISS OFF PEOPLE ABLE TO THINK AND LOSE ELECTIONS

or neocon rumor designed to prepare the populous for a the somewhat more palatable revelation that Palin's minor child was five months pregnant

we can spin that one all night if you like

BAHA, you're insane.

and you're perfectly sane for buying that the other rumor was created by "the liberals?"

Rumors that are started by, seized on, and backed by DailyKos are created by liberals. Yes, understanding this makes me sane. Thinking that neocons are behind this makes you p-t-k ish.

nbc: some didnt think that palin was in a position to go on the offensive with limited qualifications but...

Camp Holdout raises hand

seke2 wrote:yeah, that's a good point by whoever is on ABC coverage here--she spoke to small town america. that was already voting for mcain.

Except that there are a few "small town" states that Obama is still hoping to steal away (Colorado, Montana, New Hampshire, Arkansas).

If thinking someone named Cowboy Troy should be beat over the head repeatedly with a tack hammer makes me elitist, well, I'll gladly accept that label.

TheDude24 wrote:

seke2 wrote:yeah, that's a good point by whoever is on ABC coverage here--she spoke to small town america. that was already voting for mcain.

Except that there are a few "small town" states that Obama is still hoping to steal away (Colorado, Montana, New Hampshire, Arkansas).

Obama isn't going to win Arkansas. Colorado and New Hampshire aren't really small town states anymore. Montana only has 3 evs, and is unlikely to make a difference.

Wolf (paraphrased): What an amazing speech by the Republican Vice Presidential candidate. Whatever you think, wow a star has been born.

Wow, Wolf Blitzer carrying Republican water, be still my heart.

Raising McCain?

JIVE

And he will lead us to energy independence so we can be free of foreign oil.

And -- and he'll do it with an all-of-the-above approach, including nuclear power, and, yes, off-shore oil drilling.

Drill, baby, drill?

Drill, baby, drill.

This -- this -- this is the kind of change -- now, you guys are ready to break out. Whoa.

even the transcript gives me chills.

lol
abc news matt o'donnell just summarized the speech by saying basically (paraphrased): "it wasn't the best political speech ever, but for someone with her political credentials, it was pretty darn good."

allright, after this trainwreck and the phils game, i'm going to go asleep angry and bitter

jerseyhoya wrote:Wolf (paraphrased): What an amazing speech by the Republican Vice Presidential candidate. Whatever you think, wow a star has been born.

jeez, louise

I don't often post in this thread, but... Palin is a nobody. A lightweight. She's not in the top 200 of qualified Republican VP candidates. Frankly, it's a disgrace that this is what it has come to - a compeletly unqualified person in every aspect being a heartbeat away from the Presidency because that is what is required to win the election.

as much as speeches in convention settings are theatre, i don't think you could have asked much more from sarah palin. she looked comfortable, spoke pretty confidently, appeared to not be reading ALL the time, and very obviously has charisma. to those who complain that she hasn't raised anything new, she has the distinct advantage of having given only one set of remarks before a national audience and that was last Friday's introduction. i mean, i don't think anyone reasonably expected her to come off this well. she's obvious got politcal talent in the same vein as obama, which is certainly limited. she made her personal case fairly effectively, i thought. that's all she had to do.

overall, and leaving aside the debate on substance, because it's largely subjective based on one's viewpoint, i think it was a pretty strong performance. i don't meant to ask this in a sexist way, but have we ever seen hillary clinton give this successful a speech? (that's really the only benchmark we have at this level.) i've seen hillary speak both in person a few times as well on tv and i've never seen her do this well by any criteria.

but let's be clear: anyone who decides which way to vote based on a speech alone is a stone cold nitwit. i'm reading updates of people on facebook either nashing of teeth or unbridled enthusiasm and it's the what scares me about our society more than any single speech ever could. people are insane.

I didn't see the speech but Palin is going to rip Biden a new asshole in the debates.

WilliamC wrote:I didn't see the speech but Palin is going to rip Biden a new asshat in the debates.

I can guarantee that Biden will clean his teeth with her small intestines on any substantive issue.

hahahahaha...american somoa dudes wearing hawaiian and milking the spotlight ("the only american soil in the southern hemisphere...").

WilliamC wrote:I didn't see the speech but Palin is going to rip Biden a new asshat in the debates.

as the great todd would say

no billy, no.

What the hell is Biden going to say if she comes out with something like "you'd like to get a piece of this wouldn't you"?

He'd come out of it looking like a blithering fool.

I will say Palin was more appealing that either Giuliani or Romney.