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Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Mon May 18, 2015 11:47:19

smitty wrote:
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Phred wrote:
stevelxa476 wrote:Fish named their GM, Dan Jennings, as manager.


It worked for the Pope.

Except at least the Pope managed in the minors and played in the big leagues. Jennings has done neither.


Never played in MLB.

He hit .374 in seven minor league seasons. Highest level was class C. He was always very old for his age.

Yeah, I phrased that poorly and ended up saying the wrong thing. I didn't mean that the Pope played MLB. I meant that Owens played professional baseball, Jennings did not.

I just listened to Buster Olney and Jerry Crasnick talking about it on the BBTN podcast, and they said Jennings only tried out for the Yankees but never made a minor league squad. I assume they're correct about that.

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Polar Bear Phan » Mon May 18, 2015 14:57:39

This is a real test of the sabermetric opinion that managers, more or less, are irrelevant.

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby bleh » Mon May 18, 2015 20:27:57

Bruce Chen was DFAed so he retired.

:ce:

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Slowhand » Mon May 18, 2015 20:31:23

Pretty amazing career, frankly
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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Bill McNeal » Mon May 18, 2015 23:56:11

Slowhand wrote:Pretty amazing career, frankly



Right? I saw his name in a box score recently and I thought "Is that THAT Bruce Chen?" and sure enough, it is.
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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Bucky » Tue May 19, 2015 00:16:19

he'll only stay retired until rube calls him tomorrow

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue May 19, 2015 02:20:52

Slowhand wrote:Pretty amazing career, frankly


Atlanta Braves (1998–2000)
Philadelphia Phillies (2000–2001)
New York Mets (2001–2002)
Montreal Expos (2002)
Cincinnati Reds (2002)
Houston Astros (2003)
Boston Red Sox (2003)
Baltimore Orioles (2004–2006)
Texas Rangers (2007)
Kansas City Royals (2009–2014)
Cleveland Indians (2015)

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby LongDrive » Tue May 19, 2015 06:34:38

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Pretty amazing career, frankly


Atlanta Braves (1998–2000)
Philadelphia Phillies (2000–2001)
New York Mets (2001–2002)
Montreal Expos (2002)
Cincinnati Reds (2002)
Houston Astros (2003)
Boston Red Sox (2003)
Baltimore Orioles (2004–2006)
Texas Rangers (2007)
Kansas City Royals (2009–2014)
Cleveland Indians (2015)



I guess he'll go into the HOF as a Royal.

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Bucky » Tue May 19, 2015 07:48:17

moar teams than ol' one mississippi, two mississippi

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue May 19, 2015 10:33:57

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Pretty amazing career, frankly


Atlanta Braves (1998–2000)
Philadelphia Phillies (2000–2001)
New York Mets (2001–2002)
Montreal Expos (2002)
Cincinnati Reds (2002)
Houston Astros (2003)
Boston Red Sox (2003)
Baltimore Orioles (2004–2006)
Texas Rangers (2007)
Kansas City Royals (2009–2014)
Cleveland Indians (2015)

The last time he wasn't in the Majors, the Phillies won the WFC. Now our boys are on a 6-game win streak. CONNECT THE DOTS

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby BigEd76 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:16:56

Should've signed a 1-year deal in Miami at some point

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Wheels Tupay » Tue May 19, 2015 12:22:07

Probably could have been player/manager
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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue May 19, 2015 13:29:15

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Pretty amazing career, frankly


Atlanta Braves (1998–2000)
Philadelphia Phillies (2000–2001)
New York Mets (2001–2002)
Montreal Expos (2002)
Cincinnati Reds (2002)
Houston Astros (2003)
Boston Red Sox (2003)
Baltimore Orioles (2004–2006)
Texas Rangers (2007)
Kansas City Royals (2009–2014)
Cleveland Indians (2015)


Starter in 2002 for the Robert Person game. He'll be missed!

Also, does this mean Bartolo Colon is the last player still playing who wore an Expos uniform?
"I'm in a bar with the games sound turned off and that Cespedes home run still sounded like inevitability."

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue May 19, 2015 13:31:44

LongDrive wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Pretty amazing career, frankly


Atlanta Braves (1998–2000)
Philadelphia Phillies (2000–2001)
New York Mets (2001–2002)
Montreal Expos (2002)
Cincinnati Reds (2002)
Houston Astros (2003)
Boston Red Sox (2003)
Baltimore Orioles (2004–2006)
Texas Rangers (2007)
Kansas City Royals (2009–2014)
Cleveland Indians (2015)



I guess he'll go into the HOF as a Royal.


Starter in 2002 for the Robert Person game. He'll be missed!
"I'm in a bar with the games sound turned off and that Cespedes home run still sounded like inevitability."

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue May 19, 2015 13:46:53

mozartpc27 wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Pretty amazing career, frankly


Atlanta Braves (1998–2000)
Philadelphia Phillies (2000–2001)
New York Mets (2001–2002)
Montreal Expos (2002)
Cincinnati Reds (2002)
Houston Astros (2003)
Boston Red Sox (2003)
Baltimore Orioles (2004–2006)
Texas Rangers (2007)
Kansas City Royals (2009–2014)
Cleveland Indians (2015)


Starter in 2002 for the Robert Person game. He'll be missed!

Also, does this mean Bartolo Colon is the last player still playing who wore an Expos uniform?


Maicier izturis as well.

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby BigEd76 » Tue May 19, 2015 15:52:51

Rafael Furcal retired too

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue May 19, 2015 21:20:11

ReadingPhilly wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Pretty amazing career, frankly


Atlanta Braves (1998–2000)
Philadelphia Phillies (2000–2001)
New York Mets (2001–2002)
Montreal Expos (2002)
Cincinnati Reds (2002)
Houston Astros (2003)
Boston Red Sox (2003)
Baltimore Orioles (2004–2006)
Texas Rangers (2007)
Kansas City Royals (2009–2014)
Cleveland Indians (2015)


Starter in 2002 for the Robert Person game. He'll be missed!

Also, does this mean Bartolo Colon is the last player still playing who wore an Expos uniform?


Maicier izturis as well.


My honest reaction to this information is: who?

I will say this is an interesting article on the subject of the last active players to have played for no longer existing team X. Cool that there was an active former Washington Senator in 1986, the first year I can remember watching some Phillies games (I was 7 going on 8).
"I'm in a bar with the games sound turned off and that Cespedes home run still sounded like inevitability."

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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue May 19, 2015 21:58:21

Watching the Phils and reading this article about the pitcher hitting 8th, since I was surprised to hear the Rockies have been doing it. I was struck by this item in the article, which, while not new information to me, did get me thinking for a moment:

Russell A. Carleton wrote:We know that lineup construction itself is vastly overplayed. In a study that is not quoted nearly enough, Tom Ruane found that assuming the same nine players, the difference between the perfectly optimized lineup and the “He might actually be trying to sabotage his own team” lineup is actually pretty minimal. People place far too much emphasis on lineup construction relative to the added benefits that it can bring to a team.


I have no doubt that, overall, this is likely true; but I do wonder if there might not be "special exceptions" to the trend. I am thinking here specifically about the Phillies in their halcyon days and all the times Utley and Howard batted back to back. Granted, the 2005-2008 Phillies scored plenty, and even the 2009-2011 versions were no slouches. But we all know how many times we seemed to simply allow the other team to use one lefty specialist to get through the heart of our order without having to face Burrell, or Werth, or Pence, or hell even Mayberry (in his amazing 2011 second half). I don't know how you can study a negative - what would have happened had Manuel refused to allow teams to do that - but let's say my imagination basically refuses to believe its effect would have been negligible.
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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby smitty » Wed May 20, 2015 17:04:53

Utley had an .818 OPS vs. lefties in his career.
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Re: Defending AL Champs KC Royals: 2015 MLB Random

Postby phatj » Wed May 20, 2015 18:09:56

I suspect the single biggest difference maker with the Phillies would have been putting the best OBP guys in front of Howard.
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