RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Grotewold » Wed Jul 09, 2014 09:32:08

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:Chase Utley had 24 doubles as of June 7.

As of July 8, he has 24.

His OPS in June was .616. He's up to a whopping .692 in July thanks to the last two nights. I knew it was bad, but hadn't realized how bad until I looked at his season numbers last night.


I remembered him having early-summer dips the previous two seasons, but the stats don't bear that out. It's definitely a concern

Tim Brown of Yahoo reported he is not a trade possibility, fwiw

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby drsmooth » Wed Jul 09, 2014 09:34:22

CFP wrote:I don't understand the Reyes signing philosophically. It's not like he was tearing up the KBO and they decided to bring him back. He's pitching terribly there. What would even make them want to consider signing him? Baffling.


get back Jo-Jo?
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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Trent Steele » Wed Jul 09, 2014 09:53:13

drsmooth wrote:
CFP wrote:I don't understand the Reyes signing philosophically. It's not like he was tearing up the KBO and they decided to bring him back. He's pitching terribly there. What would even make them want to consider signing him? Baffling.


get back Jo-Jo?


I'd rather have Lennon.

2-7 record in 13 starts pitching to a 6.55 ERA, 1.80 WHIP, 41 Ks, and 38 BBs. In Korea. Leaves the impression that they are using some kind of rolodex from 2009 to search for potential options.
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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Rockinghorse » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:29:45

I used to love seeing him in the ATL probables. Phillies have .969 OPS against him in his career, but there are eight teams higher than that

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby traderdave » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:54:30

jurassic5 wrote:Phils sign Jo-Jo Reyes to a minor league deal

https://twitter.com/ZachLinks/status/486663284859219968

Reyes had been pitching in Korea with the SK Wyverns the past 2 seasons until being released last week (in favor of Travis Banwart).


Do we need any more evidence that Amaro's time has passed? This team is among the worst in baseball, and if we are being completely honest/realistic figures to be for the foreseeable future, and we are out dredging up a guy who last pitched in the majors in 2011 and cannot hang on in Korea? Like Colonel Jessep said, "Please tell me that you have something more".

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:11:18

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Woody » Wed Jul 09, 2014 13:46:53

@jonmorosi
Cole Hamels can be traded to LAD, LAA, STL, WAS, ATL, NYY, BOS, TEX, SD without his permission, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me.


good riddance you rat fuck

i'm joking about the rat fuck part, but obviously Cole thought ahead when he made this list, as he only really listed teams that could potentially afford him

so that brilliant bastard left himself and escape hatch for when things went south here
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Shore » Wed Jul 09, 2014 13:57:46

Woody wrote:
@jonmorosi
Cole Hamels can be traded to LAD, LAA, STL, WAS, ATL, NYY, BOS, TEX, SD without his permission, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me.


good riddance you rat fuck

i'm joking about the rat fuck part, but obviously Cole thought ahead when he made this list, as he only really listed teams that could potentially afford him

so that brilliant bastard left himself and escape hatch for when things went south here



That brilliance is probably his agent's (John Boggs?).

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Grotewold » Wed Jul 09, 2014 13:59:17

But it's in the Phils' favor

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Jul 09, 2014 14:00:46

Win win then. Lethal's point made a lot of sense, but maybe Hamels preferred they have an easier time moving him if need be.

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 09, 2014 14:00:56

smart business for both, actually
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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Grotewold » Wed Jul 09, 2014 14:01:47

ReadingPhilly wrote:Win win then. Lethal's point made a lot of sense, but maybe Hamels preferred they have an easier time moving him if need be.


But he could always say yes

If anyone did well here it was the Phillies (incredibly)

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Jul 09, 2014 14:07:03

The list makes sense to me, I don't think he's trying not to get traded, just saying if he's going, he's going to go somewhere he'd enjoy being. He's from California, so most of the CA teams are on there, I read recently that he has family in St. Louis as well, and it doesn't hurt that they are actually good and probably will be for the rest of his contract. Red Sox and Yankees, pretty self explanatory there, and then throw in Atl and wash because he knows they probably won't trade him in the division. What I love about this is that he didn't put the mets on the list.
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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 14:12:24

He's 4-6 with an ERA over 4.00 in 17 starts at the two Met stadiums. Hates being lined up for them
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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 09, 2014 14:13:46

that place is a hole, too
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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby lethal » Wed Jul 09, 2014 16:58:40

Bowden wants to do this deal: http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-gms ... st?id=9747

Philadelphia Phillies-Los Angeles Dodgers
Phillies receive: CF Joc Pederson, LHP Julio Urias and INF Alex Guerrero

Dodgers receive: LHP Cole Hamels

Hamels has a limited no-trade clause that includes 21 teams he cannot be dealt to. However, he has pre-approved eight teams, and the Dodgers are believed to be on that short list. Imagine a Dodgers rotation of Kershaw, Greinke, Hamels, Hyun-Jin Ryu and Josh Beckett (when he returns). Hamels, 30, has proven to be a good postseason pitcher and boasts a 7-4 record with a 3.09 ERA and 1.05 WHIP in 13 playoff starts. He would immediately make the Dodgers the World Series favorites.

The Phillies, meanwhile, are in desperate need of a rebuild, and Pederson would be a major step in the right direction. He'd immediately become their best prospect, and many believe he's major league-ready. He could take over any of the three outfield positions. Pederson currently sports a .319/.437/.568 line at Triple-A, with 11 doubles, 3 triples, 17 home runs, 42 RBIs and 20 stolen bases.

Urias, 17, would become the Phillies' best pitching prospect. He would need a good three or four years of development before he can help the team, but he has plenty of upside. Alex Guerrero missed time earlier this season after teammate Miguel Olivo bit off part of his ear, but he's back now and is sporting a .376/.417/.735 line at Triple-A. He could play second base or shortstop if Chase Utley or Jimmy Rollins were traded. He could also be used as a trade piece, as teams such as the Orioles, Blue Jays, A's and Giants could all use an upgrade.

This would certainly be an unpopular deal for the Phillies to make, but the rebuilding process needs to begin sooner rather than later.

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby dajafi » Wed Jul 09, 2014 17:07:30

Bowden is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I wouldn't hate that deal. It'd be nice to get another pitcher back, though. Zach Lee?

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby td11 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 17:07:55

i would love that trade
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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby Ace Rothstein » Wed Jul 09, 2014 17:11:16

That would be a nice get

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Re: RANDAMARO PHILLIES THOUGHTS

Postby lethal » Wed Jul 09, 2014 17:20:15

Yankees just lost Tanaka.

Would you do a pure salary dump trade of Lee, Howard and Papelbon for pretty much nothing (maybe just one good prospect)? I wouldn't just because the salary room doesn't help us since there's nothing on the FA market worth signing unless you're going to overpay for Jon Lester and Max Scherzer and James Shields. Chase Headley? Hanley Ramirez?

Payroll limitations is not what's keeping us down, its that there's nothing in the upper minors.

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