Grotewold wrote:

smitty wrote:We need to be moving needles now? Why would we want to do that? Need to win ball games is what we need to do.

Meh, just punt all the seasons until we have three or four early to late-20s stud hitters, and a young stud ace

(But the last time we were in that situation the general tone here was that the franchise was being destroyed)

ReadingPhilly wrote:

Shore wrote:

ReadingPhilly wrote:do you really feel replacing byrd with cruz moves the needle far enough away from the low 70s win total you projected to make it worthwhile? i'd be much more pissed giving up a draft pick to sign cruz for one season in which the team likely won't compete than i was when they signed byrd.

No, I don't. I don't even want Cruz. But, does signing Byrd move any needles? We spent $16M on a 35-year-old OF for a team that is going nowhere.

as opposed to giving up a pick and at least the same money to a 33 yo tubby OF on a team going nowhere.

Grotewold wrote:

smitty wrote:We need to be moving needles now? Why would we want to do that? Need to win ball games is what we need to do.

Meh, just punt all the seasons until we have three or four early to late-20s stud hitters, and a young stud ace

(But the last time we were in that situation the general tone here was that the franchise was being destroyed)

phdave wrote:Cruz rejected a qualifying offer of $14.1 million. He must think he can get more than that obviously. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he does not get that per year but he'll probably get way more than 16 million if he gets 2 years. And cost a pick.