2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 18:05:44

Wanted to break this off from the usual random topic so we had a place to talk about trade and FA rumors

-- Crasnick says Boras is shopping Choo above the 7/$126M Werth deal, and according to Heyman, the Mets think Choo is the only FA worth $100M+
-- Heyman thinks McCann will get $100M+ if the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels and Rangers are involved, but AJC thinks 5/$75M is more likely
-- Tim Brown says Beltran will reject St. Louis' QO and wants a 3- or 4-year deal
-- Heyman says the Nats will listen to offers for Span, but it might be just in case they sign Ellsbury or a corner OF (and move Bryce to CF)
-- RealKen says the Dodgers will listen to offers for Kemp, Ethier and Crawford, and Heyman says the Mets aren't interested in any of the three
-- Cleveland Plain Dealer says the Indians aren't expecting Ubaldo, Kazmir, Joe Smith or Matt Albers to re-sign
-- Passan says the Yankees are expected to go hard after Masahiro Tanaka and made him their "1A" priority after Cano
-- AJC says the Braves will trade Uggla if someone agrees to pick up at least $7M of the remaining $26M
-- AJC offers the idea of Doc signing with the Braves if Hudson leaves. Hudson has received offers from the Braves, Indians, Royals, Rockies, Giants, Red Sox, Athletics and Rangers
-- Besides Hudson, the Giants are also interested in Haren and Arroyo
-- ESPN Dallas says Josh Johnson's agent has talked to pretty much every team, and Johnson prefers to pitch in a "pitching-neutral ballpark"
-- Olney says there isn't a lot of demand for Bartolo Colon and he might get only a 1-yr deal from a big-market team
-- Sweeny Murti says at least a dozen teams have inquired about Joba but the Yankees aren't one of them
-- Denver Post says the Cardinals have asked about trading for Tulo but the Rockies say he and CarGo are untouchable
-- Ervin Santana wants 5/$100M and Nolasco wants 5/$80M

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby smitty » Sat Nov 09, 2013 18:50:56

One year deal for Colon? Hmmmmmm. Amaro will give him the extra year and misjudge the market. He has been pretty good for a 40 year old guy who,is fat and doesn't really strike out all that many guys.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sun Nov 10, 2013 01:56:41

BigEd76 wrote:Wanted to break this off from the usual random topic so we had a place to talk about trade and FA rumors

-- Crasnick says Boras is shopping Choo above the 7/$126M Werth deal, and according to Heyman, the Mets think Choo is the only FA worth $100M+
-- Heyman thinks McCann will get $100M+ if the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels and Rangers are involved, but AJC thinks 5/$75M is more likely
-- Tim Brown says Beltran will reject St. Louis' QO and wants a 3- or 4-year deal
-- Heyman says the Nats will listen to offers for Span, but it might be just in case they sign Ellsbury or a corner OF (and move Bryce to CF)
-- RealKen says the Dodgers will listen to offers for Kemp, Ethier and Crawford, and Heyman says the Mets aren't interested in any of the three
-- Cleveland Plain Dealer says the Indians aren't expecting Ubaldo, Kazmir, Joe Smith or Matt Albers to re-sign
-- Passan says the Yankees are expected to go hard after Masahiro Tanaka and made him their "1A" priority after Cano
-- AJC says the Braves will trade Uggla if someone agrees to pick up at least $7M of the remaining $26M
-- AJC offers the idea of Doc signing with the Braves if Hudson leaves. Hudson has received offers from the Braves, Indians, Royals, Rockies, Giants, Red Sox, Athletics and Rangers
-- Besides Hudson, the Giants are also interested in Haren and Arroyo
-- ESPN Dallas says Josh Johnson's agent has talked to pretty much every team, and Johnson prefers to pitch in a "pitching-neutral ballpark"
-- Olney says there isn't a lot of demand for Bartolo Colon and he might get only a 1-yr deal from a big-market team
-- Sweeny Murti says at least a dozen teams have inquired about Joba but the Yankees aren't one of them
-- Denver Post says the Cardinals have asked about trading for Tulo but the Rockies say he and CarGo are untouchable
-- Ervin Santana wants 5/$100M and Nolasco wants 5/$80M


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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:15:53

Damnit, did I go Hornkohl again? All of that was from the first page of MLBTR, just to generate some conversation here

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:10:58

BigEd76 wrote:-- Denver Post says the Cardinals have asked about trading for Tulo but the Rockies say he and CarGo are untouchable


An update on this one: Passan is saying the teams will discuss a deal this week, and St. Louis has also asked Texas about Andrus and Profar. The deal with Colorado could include Matt Adams, Shelby Miller, Trevor Rosenthal/Kevin Siegrist and one other player

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby ReadingPhilly » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:40:19

mauer is going to play 1b full time next season

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby Soren » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:53:34

ReadingPhilly wrote:mauer is going to play 1b full time next season


career ISO .145

He's owed $23M a year through 2018 (age 31-35)
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Postby Shore » Mon Nov 11, 2013 17:44:12

His .880 OPS would have been 6th out of 23 qualifying 1B last year. I'm pretty sure his bat plays at 1B for the duration.

ISO of .145 blows if you hit .250. ISO of .145 when you hit .323, and take a walk every other game, is part of a pretty damn good hitter.

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Postby bleh » Mon Nov 11, 2013 18:05:19

The Twins were 27 games out of 1st last year. It might be a good strategy to leave him at first, then if they can compete in a few years put him back at catcher, so he's not wearing his body down in games that don't matter.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 18:05:31

Crasnick's annual Hot Stove survey

Which Scott Boras outfielder -- Jacoby Ellsbury or Shin-Soo Choo -- will provide better value over the course of his next deal?
Choo 12; Ellsbury 8. One general manager declined to choose, observing, "Neither will match what they will get."


Which of these starting pitchers -- Matt Garza, Ervin Santana or Ubaldo Jimenez -- do you like the most in free agency?
Garza 10, Santana 5, Jimenez 4. Two respondents declined to make a pick. "They will all be way overpaid," said a National League assistant GM.


Which aging pitcher has the most left in the tank: Roy Halladay, Tim Hudson or Hiroki Kuroda?
Responses: Kuroda 12; Hudson 8; Halladay 1.

"Kuroda, and it's not particularly close," said a National League assistant GM. "Halladay has lost 4 mph and was just plain bad last year. He's a warrior, but I'm not sure that will make a difference. Hudson hasn't been as good as Kuroda in years and now is recovering from a major injury, too."

Kuroda will be 39 on Opening Day and tailed off badly after mid-August, but his velocity held firm and his problems were at least partly attributable to a higher batting average on balls in play. The Yankees still value him highly enough that they gave him a $14.1 million qualifying offer last week. Kuroda has held his own against rugged competition in the AL East over the past two seasons, and that's a significant point in his favor.

Hudson, 38, went 8-7 with a 3.97 ERA in Atlanta before suffering a season-ending ankle injury that required surgery in late July. He has been cleared to begin running later this month and is reportedly on the radar in Boston, Cleveland, Kansas City and numerous other cities.

"He still has the ability to command and sink the ball consistently," an AL scout said. "He can probably pitch until he's 42. He's probably the safest bet of these three guys."

Halladay's shoulder problems cast considerable doubt over his ability to come back at age 36. But he's built up so much credibility in the game because of his commitment and work ethic, some observers are hesitant to proclaim him finished. The Doc Halladay mystique is tough to kill.

"Maybe the chances of him coming back aren't real good if you look at it objectively," a scout said. "But if the guy wants to [keep pitching] and be successful, I wouldn't put it past him."

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:21:59

-- Heyman says the Cardinals ended talks on a JJ Hardy-for-Shelby Miller deal

-- The DBacks are trying to trade for Schierholtz

-- Arroyo is in "serious" discussions with the Twins

-- The White Sox say they won't trade Sale, Abreu, Avisail Garcia or Jose Quintana
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Postby Grotewold » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:23:46

Apparently Ervin Santana's agent(s) put out a $112M contract proposal

Is that a thing now?

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby Shore » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:29:27

Grotewold wrote:Apparently Ervin Santana's agent(s) put out a $112M contract proposal

Is that a thing now?


Well, his agents saw the Byrd deal. I kid, I kid....

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Postby Grotewold » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:43:11

Mariners making it known they're in on Kemp and, like, everyone else, like an overweight teen flashing cleave on the bus

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Postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Nov 13, 2013 13:18:11

realken says the orioles are willing to trade wieters.

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Postby Grotewold » Wed Nov 13, 2013 16:26:15

Punto to Oakland

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Postby WheelsFellOff » Wed Nov 13, 2013 17:30:05

Wait, Nick Punto?
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Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 13, 2013 17:43:05

Yanks talking trade for David Freese.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Wed Nov 13, 2013 19:59:32

CalvinBall wrote:Yanks talking trade for David Freese.


They trying to break the record for high-profile infielders?

Heyman with the scoop of the Mets "meeting in secret" with Jhhonny Peralta. Meeting in secret as in they were at the same Sonic

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Postby Grotewold » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:34:30

#Royals official on Butler trade rumors: "Do the math. We're looking to add offense. If we trade Butler, we'd have to add a lot of offense."

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