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Postby LongDrive » Fri Nov 15, 2013 08:09:44

The head groundskeeper for the Brewers is leaving to take a spot with the St. Louis Cardinals.


This is devastating!

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby Ace Rothstein » Mon Nov 18, 2013 16:37:23

Hudson to the Giants

2/23 says real ken

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Postby td11 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 17:44:56

Ace Rothstein wrote:Hudson to the Giants

2/23 says real ken


i like this deal

much rather this than 3/24 for arroyo or whatever
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Postby my cousin mose » Mon Nov 18, 2013 18:05:42

huddy seems like a good guy, even more so now that he's not a barve. any idea if he threw for teams to show he was healthy, etc?
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Postby Grotewold » Tue Nov 19, 2013 15:30:45

Cameron on Ellsbury and encouraging comparisons

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Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Nov 19, 2013 15:49:21

Grotewold wrote:Cameron on Ellsbury and encouraging comparisons


Aaron Rowand turned into a scrub as well.
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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Tue Nov 19, 2013 15:51:12

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
Grotewold wrote:Cameron on Ellsbury and encouraging comparisons


Aaron Rowand turned into a scrub as well.


I'd point to his inspiring the phrase face-breaking

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby Shore » Tue Nov 19, 2013 17:41:25

Grotewold wrote:Cameron on Ellsbury and encouraging comparisons


I don't really find those results encouraging. 17 WAR per 7 year period (2.4 per year for ages 30-36) screams "average" to me. 90 out of the 140 players (64%) that qualified for the batting title this year had 2.4 or more WAR. Martin Prado (.282 / .333 / .417, 14 HR, 70 RBI, 3 SB in 664 PA while playing slightly above average defense at 3B (and LF, and slightly below at 2B) was a 2.4 WAR player this year. It's like the definition of average.

The same guys averaged 4.3 WAR per year from ages 27-29, so they lost 44% of their annual value from their peak years to their 30s. That sounds like a disaster, to me.


Some day, I'll have the time and energy to fight the WAR * $6M = VALUE!!! thing that seems to be going around to justify contracts.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 20:41:06

Josh Johnson has narrowed his list to four NL teams: the Pirates, Giants, Padres and a mystery team. He's only looking for a 1-year deal so he can rebuild his value and jump back into FA again next offseason

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Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Tue Nov 19, 2013 20:45:46

Mystery, Alaska HAHA

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby choco » Tue Nov 19, 2013 20:50:53

BigEd76 wrote:Josh Johnson has narrowed his list to four NL teams: the Pirates, Giants, Padres and a mystery team. He's only looking for a 1-year deal so he can rebuild his value and jump back into FA again next offseason


You have to assume the mystery team plays in a good pitcher's park like Seattle or the Mets.
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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Nov 19, 2013 21:05:01

One of those is more likely than the other.

Wouldn't mind him here depending on price.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby LongDrive » Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:08:40

Heyman reporting that a swap of Prince for Kinsler is being discussed between Rangers and Tigers.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby CFP » Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:16:46

And the deal is done

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Postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:17:38

Whoa.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby CFP » Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:18:20

The hell are the Tigers doing?

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:22:20

So weird.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby CFP » Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:24:06

I mean, listen, I really get it, you're trying to dump Fielder because his contract is generally an albatross. But he's not awful, and you're taking on $57M for Kinsler over the next four years plus a $5M buyout in the fifth year, and he's got a lot to prove to say that he's not on the decline.

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby Squire » Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:26:53

CFP wrote:I mean, listen, I really get it, you're trying to dump Fielder because his contract is generally an albatross. But he's not awful, and you're taking on $57M for Kinsler over the next four years plus a $5M buyout in the fifth year, and he's got a lot to prove to say that he's not on the decline.


Just spitballin' here but Fielder was down to .815 OPS Last year too. Miggy might have to move to first or DH and they already have Victor Martinez who has to DH. Can Castellanos play 3B or is he relegated to OF?

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Re: 2013-14 MLB Hot Stove Random Thoughts

Postby LongDrive » Wed Nov 20, 2013 21:33:48

Stanton to the Phillies should be announced soon, right?

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