Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

by **Trent Steele** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 14:52:33

Feel like there are probably going to be many better options than Halladay available at roughly the same price. Don't want another season of he looks OK/he sucks/he's hurt.

by **smitty** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 16:37:18

JFLNYC wrote:I saw Jim Bunning come back to the Phils once he'd lost it and it was tough to watch. I saw Steve Carlton continue to pitch for the Phils when he was toast. If there's anyone who can reinvent himself as a pitcher and be successful, it's Doc. I wish him all the success in the world, but I really don't want to watch him pitch for the Phils again. It's just too tough to watch.

Bunning was Ok the first year. Horrible bad the next -- his last at age 39.

by **Bucky** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 18:18:31

hopefully we can schedule the mural unveiling when his new team is in town

by **Stripes** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 22:24:56

JFLNYC wrote:I saw Jim Bunning come back to the Phils once he'd lost it and it was tough to watch. I saw Steve Carlton continue to pitch for the Phils when he was toast. If there's anyone who can reinvent himself as a pitcher and be successful, it's Doc. I wish him all the success in the world, but I really don't want to watch him pitch for the Phils again. It's just too tough to watch.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 16:04:18

Housenick is leaving the beat to take a job at east stroudsburg. 1 is sad i'm sure.

by 1 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 17:03:06

I'm sure residence assistance will be glad to have her.

by **BigEd76** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 17:05:07

Kendrick was shut down for the year. Miner gets his remaining starts

by **stevemc** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 17:07:57

Could we have seen the last of KK?!!!!!!

by **LongDrive** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 20:11:34

mozartpc27 wrote:Hey, cool, I remember this:

I have the program for this game. Bought it at a card show a few years after.

by **BigEd76** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 14:22:14

Evil traitor Andy Martino talked to SMUG this past weekend:

Martino: "My assumption is that with a payroll already around $170 million, a bunch of veterans under contract, Cuban pitcher Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez already signed.....this isn’t a winter where you do big things. Right?"
SMUG: "Nope."
Martino: “Oh, so you’re going to be your usual creative self and explore all crazy possibilities?"
SMUG: "Yep."

Amaro appears in the mood to go big, and fix this sinking organization as quickly as possible.

What can he actually do? The point is that he wants to surprise us, so it is futile to run through scenarios, but here’s an example of the sort of thing we’re talking about: [Steaks' stuff about Stanton]. We don’t know if Miami will trade him within the division; hell, we don’t even know who the GM of the Marlins will be a in a few weeks. But we know that Amaro salivates over the notion of reeling in a whale like that.

A pursuit of Stanton would be classic Amaro. He loves hot stove drama, big-game hunting and surprises.

by **Napalm** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 14:24:33

now batting cleanup, moby dick

by **dajafi** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 14:51:18

The fatalist in me thinks he's going to wreck things even worse, turning what could be a three year rebuild into an interminable cycle of suck.

The optimist thinks that if they can sign a Ubaldo Jimenez and trade for a big bat, and have some luck with health and in the development of whatever young guys aren't traded, maybe there's a shot.

by **joe table** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 15:01:25

stevemc wrote:Could we have seen the last of KK?!!!!!!

All it would take is one text from Dubee to Uncle Jack

by **Bill McNeal** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 15:08:52

Does adding Stanton to this team make them a playoff team next year? If you have to subtract Brown, Biddle and Franco (and probably more) isn't that a net negative? I don't know what it would take, but I'm assuming it would take a fuckton to get him considering next year is his age 24 season and he's still fairly inexpensive and controllable for a few more years.

I'd say we could somehow frame it up in away that let's us absorb bad contracts from the marlins to lower the prospect cost, but the only player they have under contract for next year is Jeff Mathis for $1.5 mil. I just don't see a way that we can get him and not completely fuck ourselves for the foreseeable future.

by **slugsrbad** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 15:11:14

Isn't the Marlin's owner a penny pincher? Couldn't we just add a boat load of money? I don't know if there are any restrictions to money with deals.

by **joe table** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 15:23:00

I'd look at Dexter Fowler in a trade. Two more years of arb eligibility. 27 and a good athlete, could be a guy who would be a piece for a while. Wonder if the Rockies would be reticent to pay him good money in an extension given their two gigantic contracts and horrid pitching. I'd give up Biddle for him

by **Bill McNeal** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 15:36:21

slugsrbad wrote:Isn't the Marlin's owner a penny pincher? Couldn't we just add a boat load of money? I don't know if there are any restrictions to money with deals.

I'm not positive, but I think any deal with over $1m is cash has to be approved by the commissioners office, in the '70s the A's tried to sell players for cash and the commish nixed the deal.

by **laf837** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 15:44:39

I would do some due diligence on Josh Johnson's forearm issues and think about giving him a make good one-year deal. His numbers don't look as bad as they seem on first glance. Ubaldo is interesting as is the aforementioned Feldman.

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 16:02:13

stanton and trout in a few years would be the best of ever though.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 19:38:33

Bill McNeal wrote:Does adding Stanton to this team make them a playoff team next year? If you have to subtract Brown, Biddle and Franco (and probably more) isn't that a net negative? I don't know what it would take, but I'm assuming it would take a fuckton to get him considering next year is his age 24 season and he's still fairly inexpensive and controllable for a few more years.

brown+ i'd definitely do, but that + wouldn't include franco. anyone else could be included as far as i'm concerned. tbh the first time he donked one off planet hoagie i wouldn't give a shit who they dealt for him.

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