Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest GM?

Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Roger Dorn » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:52:42

I'm hoping Amaro gets the boot before that happens, I just don't think he has a long leash and it wouldn't surprise me if he's let go sooner rather than later. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I think we a solid GM this can be a contending team again in the short term.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby laf837 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:56:03

Exactly. I'm not sure we can spend our way out of this (at least in 2014) so having the financial wherewithal is not as paramount, as mike vick would say, as having young assets - which we have precious little of.
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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby kruker » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:57:55

usctrojans31 wrote:Yatta!

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Pick Team W L W% GB
1 Houston Astros 36 74 0.3273 0.0
2 Chicago White Sox 40 69 0.3670 4.5
3 Miami Marlins 43 67 0.3909 7.0
4 Milwaukee Brewers 47 64 0.4234 10.5
5 Chicago Cubs 49 62 0.4414 12.5
6 Minnesota Twins 48 60 0.4444 13.0
7 San Francisco Giants 49 61 0.4455 13.0
8 New York Mets 49 60 0.4495 13.5
9 Philadelphia Phillies 50 61 0.4505 13.5
10 Toronto Blue Jays 51 60 0.4595 14.5
11 Toronto Blue Jays [1]


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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Trent Steele » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:03:03

Feel like if we try hard enough, we can get to No. 4
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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:15:59

Trent Steele wrote:Feel like if we try hard enough, we can get to No. 4

Only three games out. After reading the NL East WAR by Position Thread, maybe Rubes isn't crazy for continuing to keep the Youngs on the roster after all.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby cshort » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:18:26

Roger Dorn wrote:I'm hoping Amaro gets the boot before that happens, I just don't think he has a long leash and it wouldn't surprise me if he's let go sooner rather than later. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I think we a solid GM this can be a contending team again in the short term.


I think we need to look at scouting as well. There needs to be significant improvement in that area at both the minor and major league level if we plan to compete with teams like the Braves. They consistently produce good prospects, and they contribute at the major league level before they're 26.
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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby bleh » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:21:26

and coaching

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:31:44

I can't see Charlie being manager next season. There's no reason to fire him now, and I hope everyone simply decides retirement is for the best. Rube is going to get another year at least I think.
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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Werthless » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:35:01

Roger Dorn wrote:Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I think we a solid GM this can be a contending team again in the short term.

laf837 wrote:Exactly. I'm not sure we can spend our way out of this (at least in 2014) so having the financial wherewithal is not as paramount, as mike vick would say, as having young assets - which we have precious little of.
cshort wrote:I think we need to look at scouting as well.
bleh wrote:and coaching


All we need is a good GM, some young assets, scouting, and coaching. Then we're good. This news can only be considered great.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Aug 06, 2013 14:25:22

cesar jimenez takes bastardo's spot.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 06, 2013 14:28:47

Nix DFA'd

Goddamnit we needed him for the stretch run

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Rockinghorse » Tue Aug 06, 2013 14:29:53

Watch him go back to Texas and have a Stairs type October

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Aug 06, 2013 14:53:47

ruf in right tonight. doesn't make any sense going forward but let's have some fun for the rest of the season.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby choco » Tue Aug 06, 2013 14:55:04

The Phillies owners are tied for 2nd longest ownership tenure in MLB after the Steinbrenners/Yankees and tied with Reinsdorf/White Sox. They were also purchased for the 3rd lowest purchase price. I have to think that once the owners start passing away and their heirs can't afford the estate taxes, sometime after the new TV agreement is signed, ownership may change hands.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Grotewold » Tue Aug 06, 2013 14:56:27

choco wrote:The Phillies owners are tied for 2nd longest ownership tenure in MLB after the Steinbrenners/Yankees and ties with Reinsdorf/White Sox. They were also purchased for the 3rd lowest purchase price. I have to think that once the owners start passing away and their heirs can't afford the estate taxes, sometime after the new TV agreement is signed, ownership may change hands.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby smitty » Tue Aug 06, 2013 15:06:54

We'll never win anything with these owners so this news can only be considered great. Hope we get Mark Cuban to own the team he's great.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby stevemc » Tue Aug 06, 2013 16:21:59

Matt Gelb ‏@magelb 58s
When asked if Delmon Young will have a diminished role, Charlie Manuel insinuated there are more moves to come.


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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby smitty » Tue Aug 06, 2013 16:22:50

Look for a yute movement.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Aug 06, 2013 16:25:06

Todd Zolecki ‏@ToddZolecki 1m
Asked about D Young's role with Ruf in RF, Manuel said there'll prob be more changes on team. Contenders might "take some of our players."

all that hand wringing for naught :(

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby sydnor » Tue Aug 06, 2013 16:25:22

When Young and Young are removed, does this mean Susdorf gets his chance to redeem himself? I guess it'd be Cesar for one of them and then the other would be Susdorf or Overbeck?

Still think we owed Brian Mazone a shot instead of Jimenez.
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