Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest GM?

Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Shore » Mon Aug 19, 2013 17:56:12

Grotewold wrote:You guys are seriously glossing over the Sandberg quote to make more hay of the John Clark Bowa rumor?

#EverythingSucksForever


No, but this team sucks right now.

Encouraged by OBP comment. Discouraged by getting on top of ball / use speed thing.

No one ever succeeded at hitting a baseball by hitting more ground balls.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Grotewold » Mon Aug 19, 2013 18:04:23

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Aug 19, 2013 20:02:06

Oh, brother.
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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Woody » Mon Aug 19, 2013 21:08:53

Can we already file this under "Hall of Famers are generally not good coaches"

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Aug 19, 2013 21:42:52

I'm no fan of Sandberg but all he's saying is Jimmy shouldn't swing for the fences. There are three ways to get a hit, ground balls, line drives and fly balls, (well, you can try pop-ups too, but the track record on those isn't great) and he's saying work on numbers one and two and don't try so hard for number three.
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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby smitty » Mon Aug 19, 2013 21:45:48

swishnicholson wrote:I'm no fan of Sandberg but all he's saying is Jimmy shouldn't swing for the fences. There are three ways to get a hit, ground balls, line drives and fly balls, (well, you can try pop-ups too, but the track record on those isn't great) and he's saying work on numbers one and two and don't try so hard for number three.


No he isn't he's telling Rollins to suck what's the matter with you can't you read.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby Shore » Mon Aug 19, 2013 22:08:31

Jimmy has a LOT of at-bats in his career, so we're not dealing with SSS.

He's hit 2,825 groundballs in his career. He's has a .460 OPS in those 2,825 ABs.
He's hit 2,546 flyballs in his career. He's hitting .585 OPS in those ABs.

If they can figure out how to make him hit line drives, awesome. 1.777 OPS in 1000+ PAs.

No one hits well on grounders. Almost no one hits better on grounders than flyballs. Even Ben Revere, with no career homers, has a better OPS on flyballs. Everyone hits best on line drives.

Balls hit in the air are better than those on the ground, and that's without accounting for the GDPs.

So, yes, the "hit it on the ground or on a line" is worse than "hit it on a line or in the air".

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Re: Phillies Thoughts- Ruben Amaro: Great GM or The Greatest

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Aug 19, 2013 22:20:43

Shore wrote:Jimmy has a LOT of at-bats in his career, so we're not dealing with SSS.

He's hit 2,825 groundballs in his career. He's has a .460 OPS in those 2,825 ABs.
He's hit 2,546 flyballs in his career. He's hitting .585 OPS in those ABs.

If they can figure out how to make him hit line drives, awesome. 1.777 OPS in 1000+ PAs.

No one hits well on grounders. Almost no one hits better on grounders than flyballs. Even Ben Revere, with no career homers, has a better OPS on flyballs. Everyone hits best on line drives.

Balls hit in the air are better than those on the ground, and that's without accounting for the GDPs.

So, yes, the "hit it on the ground or on a line" is worse than "hit it on a line or in the air".


You're assuming the result is the same as the intention. IF Rollins is uppercutting his swing and IF this is resulting in more weak ground outs and pop-ups, then retooling his approach to simply hit the ball hard somewhere might have a positive result, in particular more line drives. I admit I don't have any idea whether he actually is trying to hit more fly balls, and if so whether he is succeeding.Probably not the latter, since he kind of sucks right now. I kind of feel he's just going to say "thanks for the input" and do things his way anyway.
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