WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:59:52

who plays third base?

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby BigEd76 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:14:21

Ashy

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:23:19

so we also save around 5 millionish from young. leaving then. i dont know if that was accounted for in FTNs scenario.

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby FTN » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:28:33

if its asche, the lineup will be almost entirely lefthanded.

L: revere (cf)
S: rollins (ss)
L: cano (2b)
L: howard (1b...lets be real, hes hitting cleanup until the day his baseball career dies)
L: granderson (lf)
L: brown (rf)
R: joseph (c)
L: asche (3b)

i guess that might be a problem. cano is bad against lefties, granderson is actually okay, still draws walks and hits for power. howard, yeah. brown should be okay.

i guess that caveman corey hart is more realistic, since hes RH and doesnt like drawing walks.

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Postby CalvinBall » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:31:06

yeah thatd be rough especially with the only right being a rookie catcher.

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby 1 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:53:34

BigEd76 wrote:Brookover says get used to this next year:

Joseph
Howard/Galvis/Rollins/Asche
Ruf or Gillies/Revere/Brown
Hamels/Lee/Biddle? Pettibone? Martin? Morgan?


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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby iladelph53 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 13:29:05

FTN wrote:i guess that caveman corey hart is more realistic, since hes RH and doesnt like drawing walks.


Nelson Cruz kinda fits that bill too.
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Postby FTN » Fri Mar 29, 2013 13:34:27

cruz almost directly cost his team a world series. dont want him on this team!

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby swishnicholson » Fri Mar 29, 2013 13:40:16

Sports Illustrated has the Phils at 82-80 in third place.

Favorite comment re: Yankees (also picked at 82-80) "Pinstrtipes are worth 10 victories."
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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby phdave » Fri Mar 29, 2013 14:48:35

1 wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Brookover says get used to this next year:

Joseph
Howard/Galvis/Rollins/Asche
Ruf or Gillies/Revere/Brown
Hamels/Lee/Biddle? Pettibone? Martin? Morgan?


stopped reading after
core four


I stopped reading after

It's clear a new era of ballplayers is coming to a ballpark near you - and possibly soon.
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Postby Napalm » Fri Mar 29, 2013 14:51:36

i didn't even read it

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby Barry Jive » Fri Mar 29, 2013 15:19:45

where am i? who are you people? get out of my house
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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Postby JFLNYC » Fri Mar 29, 2013 15:58:39

stopped reading after

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby Grotewold » Fri Mar 29, 2013 16:51:04

Law picked us for 79 wins, deep in a springform mascarpone cheesecake recipe

Should of kept Wigginton

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby Bucky » Fri Mar 29, 2013 16:56:25

Barry Jive wrote:
SK790 wrote:
bleh wrote:
SK790 wrote:Too late. Sports on Earth has us behind the Mets


Kyle Kendrick and John Lannan at the back of the rotation will spell disaster. I see the unit being good to start the season, but as injuries take their toll on the team behind them and the Mets' young pitchers step up, I think the Mets will pass them both in overall quality of rotation and in the standings. Understand: this is nothing against Hamels or Lee. I just don't think the pieces around them will allow them succeed this year to the level they have in the past.

Love how they talk about Halladay being in decline but the Mets are depending on Johan Santana and Shaun Marcum who can't even get on the field. They're basically saying Matt Harvey and Zach Wheeler who have pitched a combined 10 major league games are better than Hamels & Lee.

Unless these are the supposed young hurlers who are going to step up:
Niese: 26, career 4.06 ERA
Gee; 26, career 4.06 ERA
Hefner: 27, career 5.09 ERA

Lannan: 28, career 4.01 ERA
Kendrick: 28, career 4.30 ERA

A lot of his Mets analysis depended on Niese being the great pitcher he was the 2nd half of 2012 and Harvey and Wheeler becoming quality MLB pitchers fast. Niese's BABIP went from around .315-.335 in 2009-2011 to .272 last year. His LD% stayed roughly the same, while his GB% actually went down. I don't think relying on a 2012 Jon Niese as the crux of your argument is a good bet.


what i also found especially weird was the mention that the Blue Jays wanted Niese before they got Dickey. uh, yeah. Dickey is a 38-year-old knuckleballer with 1 year/$5 million left on his deal and Niese was a 26-year-old lefty with 4/25 + two years of club options left. every league GM would prefer Niese and every league GM would tell you Dickey was the better pitcher in 2013.


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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby Grotewold » Fri Mar 29, 2013 16:58:14

Barry Jive wrote:what i also found especially weird was the mention that the Blue Jays wanted Niese before they got Dickey. uh, yeah. Dickey is a 38-year-old knuckleballer with 1 year/$5 million left on his deal and Niese was a 26-year-old lefty with 4/25 + two years of club options left. every league GM would prefer Niese and every league GM would tell you Dickey was the better pitcher in 2013.


You're right in principle, but I'm not even sure I buy that part of the premise. The Jays are going all in on the short term, with the Yanks and Sox wobbly. If it was about the next four/five years they could have just kept D'Arnaud.

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby bleh » Fri Mar 29, 2013 17:31:35

They signed him to a 2 year deal and he's now something like 3 years $30 million. I'd take that over Niese in a heartbeat.

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby phdave » Fri Mar 29, 2013 19:28:47

I was looking up previous spring training totals of HRs by Howard and I noticed that last year the HR leader for the Phillies was 3 by Luna. That should have been a sign.
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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby dajafi » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:39:47

Quintero, Aumont and Inciarte make the team, per Salisbury and others.

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Re: WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3! Phillies thoughts etc..

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:54:44

Would really prefer not to have one of our four right handed relievers to be Chad Durbin.
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