BigEd76 wrote:Brookover says get used to this next year:
Joseph
Howard/Galvis/Rollins/Asche
Ruf or Gillies/Revere/Brown
Hamels/Lee/Biddle? Pettibone? Martin? Morgan?
core four
FTN wrote:i guess that caveman corey hart is more realistic, since hes RH and doesnt like drawing walks.
1 wrote:BigEd76 wrote:Brookover says get used to this next year:
Joseph
Howard/Galvis/Rollins/Asche
Ruf or Gillies/Revere/Brown
Hamels/Lee/Biddle? Pettibone? Martin? Morgan?
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It's clear a new era of ballplayers is coming to a ballpark near you - and possibly soon.
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Barry Jive wrote:SK790 wrote:bleh wrote:SK790 wrote:Too late. Sports on Earth has us behind the MetsKyle Kendrick and John Lannan at the back of the rotation will spell disaster. I see the unit being good to start the season, but as injuries take their toll on the team behind them and the Mets' young pitchers step up, I think the Mets will pass them both in overall quality of rotation and in the standings. Understand: this is nothing against Hamels or Lee. I just don't think the pieces around them will allow them succeed this year to the level they have in the past.
Love how they talk about Halladay being in decline but the Mets are depending on Johan Santana and Shaun Marcum who can't even get on the field. They're basically saying Matt Harvey and Zach Wheeler who have pitched a combined 10 major league games are better than Hamels & Lee.
Unless these are the supposed young hurlers who are going to step up:
Niese: 26, career 4.06 ERA
Gee; 26, career 4.06 ERA
Hefner: 27, career 5.09 ERA
Lannan: 28, career 4.01 ERA
Kendrick: 28, career 4.30 ERA
A lot of his Mets analysis depended on Niese being the great pitcher he was the 2nd half of 2012 and Harvey and Wheeler becoming quality MLB pitchers fast. Niese's BABIP went from around .315-.335 in 2009-2011 to .272 last year. His LD% stayed roughly the same, while his GB% actually went down. I don't think relying on a 2012 Jon Niese as the crux of your argument is a good bet.
what i also found especially weird was the mention that the Blue Jays wanted Niese before they got Dickey. uh, yeah. Dickey is a 38-year-old knuckleballer with 1 year/$5 million left on his deal and Niese was a 26-year-old lefty with 4/25 + two years of club options left. every league GM would prefer Niese and every league GM would tell you Dickey was the better pitcher in 2013.
Barry Jive wrote:what i also found especially weird was the mention that the Blue Jays wanted Niese before they got Dickey. uh, yeah. Dickey is a 38-year-old knuckleballer with 1 year/$5 million left on his deal and Niese was a 26-year-old lefty with 4/25 + two years of club options left. every league GM would prefer Niese and every league GM would tell you Dickey was the better pitcher in 2013.