Grotewold wrote:Had a dream we traded Utley

Felt bad, man

JFLNYC wrote:Gonna be upset if Charlie doesn't put Revere 1 or 2.

ReadingPhilly wrote:best catch of 1997?

Shore wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:Gonna be upset if Charlie doesn't put Revere 1 or 2.

I'm kind of the opposite. I think there's a good chance that Revere and Rollins are our two of our three worst offensive everyday players, and I'd prefer to limit the PAs at least one of them get. The difference between first and eighth can be like 140 PA... I think intentionally giving one of your worst hitters 140 extra PA outweighs getting Revere's speed at the top of the lineup.

I know ONE of them will be at the top of the lineup; I'd prefer it to be only one.

Ace Rothstein wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing Revere hitting 8th at the start of the season to try to help him be more selective at the plate

Ace Rothstein wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing Revere hitting 8th at the start of the season to try to help him be more selective at the plate

dajafi wrote:

Ace Rothstein wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing Revere hitting 8th at the start of the season to try to help him be more selective at the plate

I approve.

Your 2013 Phillies, featuring many innings of "Revere walk, steal, pitcher sac bunt/Revere to third, Rollins pop-up, Young lineout."

First, they found their new center fielder and possible leadoff hitter, acquiring Ben Revere from the Minnesota Twins Thursday in exchange for right-handed starting pitchers Vance Worley and Trevor May. Then, in a deal finally approved by Michael Young on Saturday -- as a 10-and-5 player he had the right to refuse a trade -- the Phillies acquired Young from the Texas Rangers in exchange for right-handed relievers Josh Lindblom and Lisalverto Bonilla.

Revere was the highest-rated in either deal on the 2012 Player Rater, finishing 98th overall. By moving from Minnesota to Philadelphia, at worst he merely diminished any prospects of regression from his numbers. As the potential leadoff man for a Phillies team with a chance at getting a full season from Chase Utley, Ryan Howard and Young, Revere's runs scored total should be at least the 79 he scored in 147 games between the Twins and Triple-A Rochester. He might also rival the 46 stolen bases he had in those contests, being that the Phillies lineup is still lacking enough firepower to sit back and wait only for home runs. They'll need to get creative at times; utilizing Revere is a way they can do it.

Revere's .294 batting average and .333 on-base percentage might be the best he'll fare, however, being that he's more of a slap-hitting groundballer who uses his speed to leg out base hits. He was second in the majors in infield hits with 32, per FanGraphs. He isn't as free-swinging as you might think; his 25 percent chase rate (swings at pitches outside the strike zone) ranked 43rd out of 144 qualified hitters. Revere is selective enough that, even on the lower end, he might manage a .270 batting average and .310 on-base percentage. In that event, the only concern for his fantasy value would be if the Phillies opted to bat him eighth.

Perhaps a steals/runs player might sound exciting to fantasy owners -- it might warrant comparisons to a 2012 Phillies outfielder, Juan Pierre -- but in fantasy, that has a heck of a lot more value than in the real game. Pierre routinely contended for top-50-overall status during his prime, and while Revere might not get there, he has a legitimate shot at a top-100 finish on the 2013 Player Rater.

Rockinghorse wrote:Olney top 5 rotations FWIW: Tigers, Nats, Dodgers, Phillies, Reds

Presumably realizes by now Hamels is not with LAD

dajafi wrote:

Ace Rothstein wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing Revere hitting 8th at the start of the season to try to help him be more selective at the plate

I approve.

Your 2013 Phillies, featuring many innings of "Revere walk, steal, pitcher sac bunt/Revere to third, Rollins pop-up, Young lineout."

allentown wrote:

dajafi wrote:

Ace Rothstein wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing Revere hitting 8th at the start of the season to try to help him be more selective at the plate

I approve.

Your 2013 Phillies, featuring many innings of "Revere walk, steal, pitcher sac bunt/Revere to third, Rollins pop-up, Young lineout."

No. He is just about totally worthless as a #8 hitter. His game is speed and you take that away.

bleh wrote:He'll be the worst hitter in the lineup. He should get the fewest ABs.