"Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoughts

Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby The Savior » Tue Dec 18, 2012 09:10:32

We need things to go our way again.

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby The B1G Piece » Tue Dec 18, 2012 09:21:35

that charlie screencap is outstanding.

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby LongDrive » Tue Dec 18, 2012 09:26:34

Bucky wrote:what ever happened to pat's girl



Her and Drugs Delany got married and left BSG forever.

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Grotewold » Tue Dec 18, 2012 09:53:24

Napalm wrote:
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holy shit i bursted out laughing.


breathtaking

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Soren » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:06:05

The B1G Piece wrote:that charlie screencap is outstanding.


more or less made my day
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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Grotewold » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:39:09

Amaro answered season-ticket-holder questions

http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/vi ... -492348330

Notables:

--Utley is taking grounders every other day and is, in Amaro's words, "giddy" about how he feels

--Halladay is feeling good and will start throwing off the mound this week

--Howard is close to 100% and down about 15 lbs

--Kendrick us "a four or a five," but the interview was taped before the Lannan signing

--Strongly considered keeping Pierre but wanted a spot for Brown and, in Amaro's words, "perhaps" Ruf

--Called Revere a top of the lineup hitter "at some point" but a 7 or 8 guy, at least

--Gushed about Sandberg. Really lit up for that question, called him an "outstanding" manager

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby rolex » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:56:47

SK790 wrote:This was kinda my point. If you're gonna say we were lucky to win 102 games in a season because we were fortunate enough to have a bunch of young great players and have some moves work out then you could say it about almost any team. These teams were really good for a reason; they had things go their way.

The teams that took out the Phillies in the recent NL playoff series that they were in had one thing in common-proactive managers. Both Bochy and LaRusso schooled Manuel in those match ups. There is no doubt in my mind that had the Phillies been managed by either of those two instead of Manuel, there would have been three WS pennants flying down at CBP.

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Soren » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:59:10

rolex wrote:
SK790 wrote:This was kinda my point. If you're gonna say we were lucky to win 102 games in a season because we were fortunate enough to have a bunch of young great players and have some moves work out then you could say it about almost any team. These teams were really good for a reason; they had things go their way.

The teams that took out the Phillies in the recent NL playoff series that they were in had one thing in common-proactive managers. Both Bochy and LaRusso schooled Manuel in those match ups. There is no doubt in my mind that had the Phillies been managed by either of those two instead of Manuel, there would have been three WS pennants flying down at CBP.


Yea Bochy was a fucking genius figuring out how to get Cody Ross, owner of a career .783 OPS, to put up a .350/.435/.950 batting line in the NLCS. Also, his work getting to pop fly off of Uribe's bat into the stands deserves him a spot in the hall.
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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Bill McNeal » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:00:42

Grotewold wrote:
Napalm wrote:
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holy shit i bursted out laughing.


breathtaking


Is that Bubbles there?

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Grotewold » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:01:03

rolex wrote:Both Bochy and LaRusso schooled Manuel in those match ups. There is no doubt in my mind that had the Phillies been managed by either of those two instead of Manuel, there would have been three WS pennants flying down at CBP.


I think there is something to how those guys managed in the playoffs, especially how they'd have a quick hook for a struggling starter (and somehow the scrub relievers all put up zeroes) but c'mon. LaRussa blew the Ben Francisco game and we were two feet from winning that series on the Ibanez flyout

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:14:47

I guess it was just too early for Rube to share that Utley, Howard, Halladay, etc., is each in the best shape of his life.
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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Napalm » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:38:59

Grotewold wrote:Amaro answered season-ticket-holder questions

http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/vi ... -492348330

Notables:
--Kendrick us "a four or a five," but the interview was taped before the Lannan signing

--Called Revere a top of the lineup hitter "at some point" but a 7 or 8 guy, at least

Update: They interviewed him again after the Lanna signing and he said Kendrick is "a four or a five".

also, good news on revere, though its up to charlie. You cant just stick him up top because of his speed right now, he hasnt done jack shit

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Soren » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:42:25

Revere: .294 .333 .342
Pierre: .307 .351 .371

no reason not to bat him 2nd.
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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Napalm » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:45:10

Soren wrote:Revere: .294 .333 .342
Pierre: .307 .351 .371

no reason not to bat him 2nd.

computer numbers. what about veteran intangibles bro

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Soren » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:50:22

knows when to BUNT
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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Napalm » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:57:35

he had more home runs last year than revere does in his career

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby rolex » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:31:19

Grotewold wrote:
rolex wrote:Both Bochy and LaRusso schooled Manuel in those match ups. There is no doubt in my mind that had the Phillies been managed by either of those two instead of Manuel, there would have been three WS pennants flying down at CBP.


I think there is something to how those guys managed in the playoffs, especially how they'd have a quick hook for a struggling starter (and somehow the scrub relievers all put up zeroes) but c'mon. LaRussa blew the Ben Francisco game and we were two feet from winning that series on the Ibanez flyout

The old saying of " If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...." The fact of the matter is that Manuel had the better roster in both cases and lost the series. I realize that there are times that a manager pushes a button and it fails but then again there are some successes as well. Doing nothing is all too often a losing proposition. Its the same story of when he was with the Indians. There are times when the manager has to stir things up to make things happen. Charlie doesn't do it and his teams lose both here in Philly and when he was in Cleveland. Do people realize all of the talent that he has had at his disposal as a manager and yet he has only one WS championship to show for it? That isn't accidental.
The best thing going forward for the Phillies is that Sandberg is here and ready to take charge when Manuel falls on is face again.

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby bury me » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:33:39

rolex wrote:Do people realize all of the talent that he has had at his disposal as a manager and yet he has only one WS championship to show for it? That isn't accidental.


this honestly doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby dajafi » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:35:28

rolex wrote:
Grotewold wrote:
rolex wrote:Both Bochy and LaRusso schooled Manuel in those match ups. There is no doubt in my mind that had the Phillies been managed by either of those two instead of Manuel, there would have been three WS pennants flying down at CBP.


I think there is something to how those guys managed in the playoffs, especially how they'd have a quick hook for a struggling starter (and somehow the scrub relievers all put up zeroes) but c'mon. LaRussa blew the Ben Francisco game and we were two feet from winning that series on the Ibanez flyout

The old saying of " If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...." The fact of the matter is that Manuel had the better roster in both cases and lost the series. I realize that there are times that a manager pushes a button and it fails but then again there are some successes as well. Doing nothing is all too often a losing proposition. Its the same story of when he was with the Indians. There are times when the manager has to stir things up to make things happen. Charlie doesn't do it and his teams lose both here in Philly and when he was in Cleveland. Do people realize all of the talent that he has had at his disposal as a manager and yet he has only one WS championship to show for it? That isn't accidental.
The best thing going forward for the Phillies is that Sandberg is here and ready to take charge when Manuel falls on is face again.


Yes! We need a master motivator and tactical genius... a Bobby Valentine type.

Hey--I think he's available!

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Re: "Still have our 1st-rd pick!" & other random Phils thoug

Postby Napalm » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:36:41

i bet that rolex leaves a nasty green residue on your wrist

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