Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby smitty » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:13:16

Not a surprise but a bummer. I like that Sheerholtz guy even though he's not that great.

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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:14:47

smitty wrote:Not a surprise but a bummer. I like that Sheerholtz guy even though he's not that great.


Missed a title run and broke his foot, pretty rough
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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby 76erfan » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:14:57

so nix is a backup of.
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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:15:09

He and Nix were redundant. I'm OK with this move.

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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby 76erfan » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:17:04

my new prediction worth nothing but this is what i think may happen

LF Ruf
CF Hamilton
RF Brown

backup OF Mayberry and Nix

Then sign Youk to give us the middle of order RH bat

Find something cheap via trade at RP
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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Eem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:20:29

Given how much the Phillies have valued defense:

1) I am very surprised that Schierholtz was non-tendered
2) There is absolutely no way in living hell they will go into 2012 with Ruf-Hamilton-Brown in the OF and Youk at 3B
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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:21:59

Eem wrote:Given how much the Phillies have valued defense:

1) I am very surprised that Schierholtz was non-tendered


Yep, makes me think we could end up with two new outfielders

But who the hell knows at this point

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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby 76erfan » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:22:47

well if you add hamilton..you really need a RH bat in middle of order......

if we value defense so much than bourn is your guy(and you still need a rh power bat)
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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Eem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:24:46

If they want to spend, they can definitely sign Pagan (switch hitter) and Hamilton and go with Galvis/Frandsen and maybe sign Chavez to platoon at 3B
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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:28:54

Crisp in CF ($7MM), Youkilis at 3B (1/$8MM), Swisher for RF (multi-years at ~$13MM-$15MM).
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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Eem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:30:05

Yup, Swisher could be a target too. Good defender, switch hitter.

Swisher/Bourn? There's a lot left they could do.
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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Eem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:30:27

I mean, this basically confirms the Phillies are going to spend big money in the OF.
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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:31:56

when did the decision on Schierholtz have to be made?

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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby my cousin mose » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:33:13

I want to say that today was the non-tender deadline? could be wrong.
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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Eem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:33:20

Houshphandzadeh wrote:when did the decision on Schierholtz have to be made?

Today
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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:34:15

I guess I don't see it really confirming anything then

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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:34:30

Houshphandzadeh wrote:when did the decision on Schierholtz have to be made?


By midnight tonight I believe.

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Re: Call me a Cockeyed Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby 702 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:36:56

ill say.....Pagan/Hamilton duo in OF.

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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby 76erfan » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:38:38

braves talking to dbacks about upton/andrelton simmons trade

which if it happened...would unite the uptons
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Re: Call me a #$!&@ Optimist:Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Eem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:39:40

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I guess I don't see it really confirming anything then

Eh, the current OF is Ruf/Nix-Mayberry-Brown. Schierholtz is a very useful player. They're letting a good player go for nothing on a team whose best OF is now Domonic Brown.
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