Phillies random things: July can only be worse than June

by **Bucky** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 21:42:22

so, everyone busts on charlie for this. but if you notice in the "Halladay Family Foundation" commercial, Roy himself pronounces it closer to "Holiday"....

by **Napalm** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 21:44:19

i'm probably going to start busting on halladay now

by **Soren** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 09:53:42

Schierholtz has an OPS+ of 115 over his last ~600 PAs. He's also about 4-5 years older than I thought he was

by **Grotewold** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 09:55:17

Soren wrote:Schierholtz has an OPS+ of 115 over his last ~600 PAs. He's also about 4-5 years older than I thought he was

And 7-8 years younger than he looks

by **FTN** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:28:55

i think martin may end up being the best prospect they got back. hes had major command/control issues, but his raw stuff has never really dipped. hes consistently 92-95 and can hit 97 when he reaches back. his curveball is a legit weapon. he's made some improvements this year with his control. its going to take some time, but hes still young. worst case scenario is he is a 7th inning reliever. i think it was a great get, to be honest.

by **Eem** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:31:33

FTN wrote:i think martin may end up being the best prospect they got back. hes had major command/control issues, but his raw stuff has never really dipped. hes consistently 92-95 and can hit 97 when he reaches back. his curveball is a legit weapon. he's made some improvements this year with his control. its going to take some time, but hes still young. worst case scenario is he is a 7th inning reliever. i think it was a great get, to be honest.

Listened to Klaw on the radio yesterday, he said basically the same things. Really likes him as an upside guy.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:43:05

FTN wrote:i think martin may end up being the best prospect they got back. hes had major command/control issues, but his raw stuff has never really dipped. hes consistently 92-95 and can hit 97 when he reaches back. his curveball is a legit weapon. he's made some improvements this year with his control. its going to take some time, but hes still young. worst case scenario is he is a 7th inning reliever. i think it was a great get, to be honest.

Is Brett Myers a fair comparison then? With a bit more pop on his fastball?

by **FTN** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:54:36

not really. martin is really athletic and has a really free and easy arm action. bert was always a max effort guy. and not much of an athlete.

when myers was at his best, his fastball was really only 90-92.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:09:19

FTN wrote:not really. martin is really athletic and has a really free and easy arm action. bert was always a max effort guy. and not much of an athlete.

when myers was at his best, his fastball was really only 90-92.

Fair enough. Haven't seen any video of Martin yet. Myers generally sat in the low 90s before his injuries started to take a toll, but he could get his FB up to higher than what you said. Never 97, but that's why I said "more pop." Look at his 2007 closer stint.

by **joe table** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:11:28

Here is some Martin vid. Arm looks good, bit of a short stride for a big guy and throws a little across his body

by **The B1G Piece** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:12:42

^^^^^

Does he throw a split?

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:13:43

Thanks. Looks like he disguises his delivery a bit and gives that fastball a few more effective mph.

by **joe table** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:16:37

Chorch getting some national pub

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/page/ara ... dedication

by **WheelsFellOff** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:33:11

joe table wrote:Chorch getting some national pub

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/page/ara ... dedication

Cotdamn that's a great article. I'm gonna go buy Billmeyer a new pair of binoculars now.

by **Grotewold** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 13:12:48

Since 2009, only two other full-time catchers (Joe Mauer and Mike Napoli) have a higher OPS than Ruiz, and neither of those two are regarded as good defensively. Arguably, Ruiz has been the best catcher in baseball for almost three years.

by 1 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 14:00:22

Adorable.

"It was like when one goes to school," Ruiz said. "When one goes to school, you don't have any idea of what you're going to learn. But as each day passes, you learn things. I believe sport is the same way. Some guys are born with a talent. But you have to nurture that talent and continue to learn. Life is like school. You aren't going to be born knowing what to do in every situation. You learn little by little."

by **smitty** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 16:08:12

joe table wrote:Here is some Martin vid. Arm looks good, bit of a short stride for a big guy and throws a little across his body

Command of his control will be the key. His stuff has always been really good. He allowed more than 6 walks per game before this year and is still at 4.7.

I've read that he rushes his delivery. I can't really evaluate much from YouTube videos. Does he look rushed to you?

Ideally the Phil's have someone around that can improve his mechanics. If so, they could have pretty nice pitcher here.

He was a really good 3Bman in High School too so there's that. He's athletic anyway and that's always a good thing. It's helped Kendrick and Blanton anyway.

by **BigEd76** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 13:46:45

Seidman @ CSN.com discusses signing Bourn

-- Thinks 5/$67.5M would be a fair offer, considering something between the contracts of Figgins and Reyes
-- Would leave about $19M to upgrade 3B, LF, bench and a 5th starter (assuming it isn't Kyle)

by **WheelsFellOff** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 13:50:42

13M a year is too much for Bourn and 5 years is too long.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 13:57:46

WheelsFellOff wrote:13M a year is too much for Bourn and 5 years is too long.

Agreed. I'd pay him $13M for two years, maybe even three, but certainly not five.

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