BigEd76 wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:First Japanese player

Nomosayswhat

First Japanese position player, I think

phatj wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:First Japanese player

Nomosayswhat

First Japanese position player, I think

It's true by 1 day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ma ... from_Japan

Tsuyoshi Shinjo made his MLB debut 1 day later than Ichiro.

Is Travis Snider becoming who he was supposed to be?

SK790 wrote:

phatj wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:First Japanese player

Nomosayswhat

First Japanese position player, I think

It's true by 1 day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ma ... from_Japan

Tsuyoshi Shinjo made his MLB debut 1 day later than Ichiro.

The first Japanese pitcher in MLB was Masanori Murakami. He was 20 years old in 1964 When he debuted with the big club after dominating A ball most of the season. He spent all of 1965 with the big club where he was a successful reliefer. His best pitch was a screwball. I remember he had an odd delivery.

I think Ichiro should be in Tha Hall of Fame. To me, the Hall isn't strictly for the best Sabermetric players only. Ichiro was the first and most successful Japanese position player. He was a really good player in Japan for many year too and that should count a little. He was hugely famous and popular and historic. That should count too.

Plus, he had a LOT of hits.

kruker wrote:Is Travis Snider becoming who he was supposed to be?

Dunno, but he's almost certainly better than Gose right now.

Toronto has a pretty packed OF situation. I wonder if they'd give up one of Gose/Snider/Rasmus. I guess it's more likely they try to move Lind and, lord knows, we don't have much that they'd want, but that'd be a nice way to solve our OF dilemma for next year.

smitty wrote:

SK790 wrote:

phatj wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:First Japanese player

Nomosayswhat

First Japanese position player, I think

It's true by 1 day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ma ... from_Japan

Tsuyoshi Shinjo made his MLB debut 1 day later than Ichiro.

The first Japanese pitcher in MLB was Masanori Murakami. He was 20 years old in 1964 When he debuted with the big club after dominating A ball most of the season. He spent all of 1965 with the big club where he was a successful reliefer. His best pitch was a screwball. I remember he had an odd delivery.

I think Ichiro should be in Tha Hall of Fame. To me, the Hall isn't strictly for the best Sabermetric players only. Ichiro was the first and most successful Japanese position player. He was a really good player in Japan for many year too and that should count a little. He was hugely famous and popular and historic. That should count too.

Plus, he had a LOT of hits.

I'd have him in the HOF, but I don't think he deserves to be first ballot.

phatj wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:First Japanese player

Nomosayswhat

First Japanese position player, I think

Thanks for the attempt at a defense, but I just brainfarted.

I could watch nonocat ALL DAY

Random questions for everyone... does Greg Maddux go into the HOF unanimous? Does anyone think it's possible to vote against him? If someone does, how angry will you be?

CFP wrote:Does anyone think it's possible to vote against him? If someone does, how angry will you be?

Yesterday I had to reach down and remove a Yellow Pages from my stoop. That's about how angry I'd be

yes, yes, meh

I guess it would depend on who it is/if we found out who it was that didn't vote for him. Nobody has ever made it unanimously. What would it take? I would have to think it would be Greg Maddux if it's going to be anyone. And if he doesn't, who even has a chance at it next? Jeter, I suppose, but that's a long ways off, and Rivera, but that's a long ways off too.

Some jerkoff won't vote for him because Babe Ruth and Willie Mays didn't get in unanimously but I don't care either so there's that.

I'll be perturbed.

Rivera won't be unanimous because closers don't belong!!1 rabble rabble

Rutledge/Tulo could be an awesome 2b/SS combo

I've always wondered who it was that didn't vote for Ruth

edit: What I mean is I just wondered that for the very first time

Adam Dunn is leading the league in each of the three true outcomes

My friend said yesterday he thinks Dunn might make the HOF. Man, that could turn into a tough debate. If he hits 500 is he in? I never saw him as a HOF player. Hall of Very Good IMHO