Grotewold wrote:

SK790 wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

SK790 wrote:I don't really care that he plays over Nix or Wiggy, but to bat him leadoff is fucking stupid.

In a theoretical vacuum, yeah. But what's Charlie's alternative at the moment? Would you feel better with Rollins leading off and Mayberry/Ruiz/Pierre/Galvis five through eight?

Yes, I would prefer we have our 2 worst hitters getting the least amount of ABs possible.

Well Galvis is batting eighth. Not sure who the second-worst is at this point, honestly.

We all understand the theories behind lining your best OBP guys up 1-8. But spare me the babe gothery over Charlie wanting two of his handful of line-drive-capable hitters, Rollins and Victorino, in the middle of the order against righties.

And underscoring the irrelevance of all this, Victorino leads off tonight.

Maybe they should think about bringing him back for the season. Can't be any worse!!

SK790 wrote:Don't know who is arguing those other points.

Grotewold wrote:

SK790 wrote:Don't know who is arguing those other points.

Well, you are, indirectly. Dropping Pierre to 7 or 8 means moving one of your few line-drive hitters from the 3 or 5 hole. Which is reasonable, but I'm not gonna get worked up about Manuel not doing that against righties, as appears to be the plan.

Again, if Pierre proves as awful as you guys think he is, and/or Utley or Howard returns or one of the LF/1B guys starts hitting, the situation will take care of itself.

jeff2sf wrote:Trent, you've let me down in ways I can't even articulate. This is like the day I found out my dad wasn't very good at sports (as an aside it took me just another month to learn that I wasn't very good at sports).


Juan Pierre is to General Managers as "not believing in dinosaurs" is to Vice Presidents. It's a fundamentally disqualifying issue. He's never the right answer to any question you could come up with. There's always a better option if he makes a dollar over the minimum.

jeff2sf wrote:Why does Pierre get the benefit of the doubt.

Grotewold wrote:

jeff2sf wrote:Why does Pierre get the benefit of the doubt.

Because he's old and Manuel and Amaro love that almost as much as they hate winning.

jeff2sf wrote:Laynce Nix has been a demonstrably better player the last two years according to any stat and according to the market and/or your own general manager depending on your view of winner's curse. Short of #$!&@ Charlie Manuel's daughter during Spring Training, there is literally nothing he could have done to deserve starting less games than Juan Pierre right now. Nothing.

jeff2sf wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

jeff2sf wrote:Why does Pierre get the benefit of the doubt.

Because he's old and Manuel and Amaro love that almost as much as they hate winning.

Weak grote, weak.

jeff2sf wrote:Played well in the spring is not allowed to be used as a defense of anything. We really think Laynce Nix is hurt right now?

jeff2sf wrote:And did you really say I guy hitting .231 is playing well? He's got three hits.

jeff2sf wrote:Played well in the spring is not allowed to be used as a defense of anything. We really think Laynce Nix is hurt right now?