that seems low. i have to think he can get much more than that

I'd rather go with a pen of bastardo stutes schwimmer herndon contreras savery defrautus and resign rollins and extend hamels

i don't know how anyone can figure contreras into the pen next season. he's done

lethal wrote:I'd rather go with a pen of bastardo stutes schwimmer herndon contreras savery defrautus and resign rollins and extend hamels

If Madson is looking for big closer money, I agree. But if he would actually sign for 2 years at $7M per I figure he's not really getting in the way of the other two goals.

Napalm wrote:i don't know how anyone can figure contreras into the pen next season. he's done

I actually take this back. I could see him signing a one year deal for really cheap if he's healthy and the Phils want him back. They'll always like a veteran or two back there. He probably really likes it here, he just gets to chill back and relax, and he has a starting staff that can go 7 a night. His time is winding down, this is like an early retirement

phatj wrote:

lethal wrote:I'd rather go with a pen of bastardo stutes schwimmer herndon contreras savery defrautus and resign rollins and extend hamels

If Madson is looking for big closer money, I agree. But if he would actually sign for 2 years at $7M per I figure he's not really getting in the way of the other two goals.

Already committed to 113 mil for next year. Jeez. Gotta figure out Madson, Hamels, Rollins, Oswalt(?), Pence. Plus, fleecing the Mets in a David Wright deal. Rube's got his work cut out for him.

Napalm wrote:

Napalm wrote:i don't know how anyone can figure contreras into the pen next season. he's done

I actually take this back. I could see him signing a one year deal for really cheap if he's healthy and the Phils want him back. They'll always like a veteran or two back there. He probably really likes it here, he just gets to chill back and relax, and he has a starting staff that can go 7 a night. His time is winding down, this is like an early retirement

I believe he's signed thru 2012.

Yep. 2.5 mil.

What does everyone think about buying out Oswalt and signing him to a cheaper deal? Would that be possible? I guess he'd have to want to do it too. This happens quite a bit in football, I wonder if it happens in baseball.

Here would be my list of priorities

1) Extend Hamels

2) Resign Rollins (For 3 yrs or less, if not, move on)

3) Get a 3rd baseman that isnt a soft ass bitch

4) Resign Madson

Napalm wrote:What does everyone think about buying out Oswalt and signing him to a cheaper deal? Would that be possible? I guess he'd have to want to do it too. This happens quite a bit in football, I wonder if it happens in baseball.

Honestly, it might be best just to move on. Worley should be fine and you'd have to think that Blanton will have a bounce back year. I would focus on getting Hamels signed and resolving the issue at third.

Doll Is Mine wrote:

Napalm wrote:What does everyone think about buying out Oswalt and signing him to a cheaper deal? Would that be possible? I guess he'd have to want to do it too. This happens quite a bit in football, I wonder if it happens in baseball.

Honestly, it might be best just to move on. Worley should be fine and you'd have to think that Blanton will have a bounce back year. I would focus on getting Hamels signed and resolving the issue at third.

Depends on the price. If he wants to sign a 2-20 deal, don't you have to take something like that? He's Roy fucking Oswalt

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

Napalm wrote:What does everyone think about buying out Oswalt and signing him to a cheaper deal? Would that be possible? I guess he'd have to want to do it too. This happens quite a bit in football, I wonder if it happens in baseball.

Honestly, it might be best just to move on. Worley should be fine and you'd have to think that Blanton will have a bounce back year. I would focus on getting Hamels signed and resolving the issue at third.

Depends on the price. If he wants to sign a 2-20 deal, don't you have to take something like that? He's Roy #$&! Oswalt

Yea, that's what I think. I have to think both sides would still wanna cuddle with one another after this season. I feel like there'd be a good chance to get him for cheaper than 16 mil, and taking into account his buyout money.
I wonder if Kendrick comes back, he sucks so hard but is really serviceable. Hopefully not for the money he makes now. If not, even though Blanton makes a good amount more, maybe he's the safety net 6th ace for the backend of the rotation if Oswalt is back.

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

Napalm wrote:What does everyone think about buying out Oswalt and signing him to a cheaper deal? Would that be possible? I guess he'd have to want to do it too. This happens quite a bit in football, I wonder if it happens in baseball.

Honestly, it might be best just to move on. Worley should be fine and you'd have to think that Blanton will have a bounce back year. I would focus on getting Hamels signed and resolving the issue at third.

Depends on the price. If he wants to sign a 2-20 deal, don't you have to take something like that? He's Roy fucking Oswalt

I think they need to focus on signing Hamels, re-signing Rollins or finding someone to replace him, resolving the issue at third, and working on the bullpen much more than whether Oswalt should be back as our #4.

They can do them all.

I want them to fix 3rd base, but I could see Rube putting that on the backburner since Polanco still makes money and still has a year left on his deal. Unfortunately, I can see them taking care of that after 2012.

Napalm wrote:They can do them all.

I want them to fix 3rd base, but I could see Rube putting that on the backburner since Polanco still makes money and still has a year left on his deal. Unfortunately, I can see them taking care of that after 2012.

If they can, then it's not a problem. I would definitely like to have Oswalt back for another season.

They'll pick up Longoria after next year, no worries.

Rizzotti can learn 3b in the offseason

Agreed.

Polanco 2012=Raul 2011

stevemc wrote:Agreed.

Polanco 2012=Raul 2011

??? 2012 = Mayberry 2011