stevemc wrote:Since Beltran hasn't played left field in forever, in this crazy scenario, does he go there? Do we move Dom?

Beltran was an elite CFer before his injury(ies). I'm sure he could make a go of it in LF.

JFLNYC wrote:It's a bigger risk for the Phils. The Mets might regret trading Beltran to the Phils for a few months (if at all). The Phils could regret who they trade for years.

Alright, who should the Phils be willing to part with to get this done? Can we still trade Toby Borland and Bruce Chen?

JFLNYC wrote:It's a bigger risk for the Phils. The Mets might regret trading Beltran to the Phils for a few months (if at all). The Phils could regret who they trade for years.

The Mets will never regret trading Beltran to the Phillies. The Phillies will win the division regardless and the Mets will finish wherever they will finish regardless as well.

lethal wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:It's a bigger risk for the Phils. The Mets might regret trading Beltran to the Phils for a few months (if at all). The Phils could regret who they trade for years.

The Mets will never regret trading Beltran to the Phillies. The Phillies will win the division regardless and the Mets will finish wherever they will finish regardless as well.

If they played in a vacuum, I'd agree. But the Mets have already antagonized their fanbase a whole helluva lot with all their mismanagement and poor play. I think they'd have to think about trading Beltran to the Phillies long and hard from a "political" standpoint - meaning, how badly will they get killed on WFAN if it is perceived that they are not only badly run and looking to dump payroll, but are willing to help their main rival win a WFC in order to dump payroll?

The Phillies regular with the highest BABIP is Shane at .316, which is 46th in MLB. We gon regress in a good way.

Dan Uggla has a .188 BABIP. He has 19 RBIs. Both seem impossible.

Trent Steele wrote:The Phillies regular with the highest BABIP is Shane at .316, which is 46th in MLB. We gon regress in a good way.

Dan Uggla has a .188 BABIP. He has 19 RBIs. Both seem impossible.

.181. Wow.

He'll be one of those "second half" players we hear so much about.

mozartpc27 wrote:

lethal wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:It's a bigger risk for the Phils. The Mets might regret trading Beltran to the Phils for a few months (if at all). The Phils could regret who they trade for years.

The Mets will never regret trading Beltran to the Phillies. The Phillies will win the division regardless and the Mets will finish wherever they will finish regardless as well.

If they played in a vacuum, I'd agree. But the Mets have already antagonized their fanbase a whole helluva lot with all their mismanagement and poor play. I think they'd have to think about trading Beltran to the Phillies long and hard from a "political" standpoint - meaning, how badly will they get killed on WFAN if it is perceived that they are not only badly run and looking to dump payroll, but are willing to help their main rival win a WFC in order to dump payroll?

They can pretend they did it to piss off the Braves. I assume Mets fans hate them as much as we do.

Trent Steele wrote:The Phillies regular with the highest BABIP is Shane at .316, which is 46th in MLB. We gon regress in a good way.

Dan Uggla has a .188 BABIP. He has 19 RBIs. Both seem impossible.

Uggla is popping the ball up a lot more than he used to, still though a 0.014 BABIP on flyballs is probably not going stick around

Gload has a .588 OPS. Goatse is a good pictural representation of his power this year seeing as he has 0 extra base hits. Seriously, I have no idea why anyone sticks up for him, other than the fact that his last name is also his nickname

Gload is batting .286, that's pretty good. joking

CrackedBellSports: Why the Phils should let Madson leave in FA

Basically says take the 2 draft picks instead, use the money on Cole, and make Contreras the closer until DeFratus or Aumont takes over in 2013

Schneitag playing in Reading tonight and batting second

BigEd76 wrote:CrackedBellSports: Why the Phils should let Madson leave in FA

Basically says take the 2 draft picks instead, use the money on Cole, and make Contreras the closer until DeFratus or Aumont takes over in 2013

This is a good idea also because Madson is probably going to be one of the highest paid relievers in baseball, and Cole is in line for an 80-100$ MM contract. I, too, would rather just put the money towards locking up Hamels forever. Since they won't be paying Lidge or Ibanez either, I'm sure there is a moderately priced closer available in FA if the front office truly isn't confident in what they already have.

Say Madson gets $12MM. They draw 3MM next year. Raise ticket prices by $4 across the board. Pay for Madson. Sign Hamels. Bi-winning.

JFLNYC wrote:Say Madson gets $12MM. They draw 3MM next year. Raise ticket prices by $4 across the board. Pay for Madson. Sign Hamels. Bi-winning.

Think they can get 4MM this season? B-R says 3.77 MM last season. Not sure how they'd get another 3K people per game since every game is sold out though.

For what its worth, I actually think Madson could draw as much as 14-15$ MM... If his season continues to progress as it has that would put him in top ten, maybe top five closers in baseball and certainly worth a good amount of money. I'm not saying they couldn't if they really wanted to, but I'd prefer the money be spent on Hamels.

new phillies.com looks like an unkempt butthole

should i be worried about oswalt? is this what he is now?

He'll be fine and starting Game 4 in the World Series

Soren wrote:Gload has a .588 OPS. Goatse is a good pictural representation of his power this year seeing as he has 0 extra base hits. Seriously, I have no idea why anyone sticks up for him, other than the fact that his last name is also his nickname

My favorite is every ninth inning when [random player A] is batting, Wheels and McCarthy will go out of their way to say "You see, the reason Gload isn't batting here is because blah blah blah" when the real answer is he's hurt which is making him stink yet he's still on the roster for some inconceivable reason.