2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby etched Chaos » Thu Jun 16, 2011 09:36:09

When Dom finally gets some good BABIP, its going to get funner.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby thephan » Thu Jun 16, 2011 09:58:49

Liked the Sage's description of other teams strategy for Halladay: He's always around the plate so there is no harm in hacking away (obviously paraphrased). The Blind Squirrel strategy.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby The B1G Piece » Thu Jun 16, 2011 09:59:33

Here comes glue factory bad Rule

June numbers:

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby bleh » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:14:41

He's only good in 3 letter months. They're misusing him.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:04:14

Great quick story from Posnanski in his Saturday blog entry (where he says goodbye to KC). This is as good a thread as any to post it.

I was once hosting an event featuring Bob Costas and Royals owner David Glass, and I asked what was the reason for the massive increase in home runs in baseball. And someone in the crowd yelled: "Ricky Botallico," who was the Royals closer at the time.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby smitty » Thu Jun 16, 2011 15:17:41

Coupla Phillies related things in the Hey Bill section of billjamesonline.

Hey, is Kyle Kendrick firmly established as the luckiest major leaguer of all time at this point? Every year he seems to wind up in the Phillies rotation, and every year I wonder how.
Asked by: Mike C.
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Mike Torrez. Strikeout rate was bad, walk rate was bad, ERAs were never good, but he was in the rotation for competitive teams for ten years and won fifteen games seven times.

I do wish most announcers would talk less. I grew up with Harry Kalas, one of the Scully school, but less talkative, and Richie Ashburn and both of them had a wonderful feel for when to talk or not to. They talked plenty, but did not fill the air with words and when the Phils had McCarver for a few years, you really noticed the change. Same with Chris Wheeler. I like Timmy Mac and Wheeler and Costas and the high-energy types, but given a choice, much prefer the Kalas/Jon Miller/Ashburn types who let you hear the game as well. During the Kalas/Ashburn years, while looking for a game, you had to be listening to tune into background noise as well as the game, since whitey and harry would let 5 seconds or more go by of fans rooting, the organ playing, etc. Always liked that. The new crew are fine and I like Larry Anderson a lot as an announcer and Wheeler is fun because he loves calling the games so much and brings so much info. but having had Kalas and Ashburn was special.
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Kalashburn.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby The B1G Piece » Thu Jun 16, 2011 16:06:23

Quick little update on the four pitchers:

29-14, 2.79 ERA, 1.077 WHIP, 4.932 K/BB, 8.594 K/9, 6.855 IP per start.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby GrizzledVeteran » Thu Jun 16, 2011 16:48:11

On pace for 102 wins.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby lethal » Thu Jun 16, 2011 20:30:58

The B1G Piece wrote:Quick little update on the four pitchers:

29-14, 2.79 ERA, 1.077 WHIP, 4.932 K/BB, 8.594 K/9, 6.855 IP per start.


Prorate the wins and losses and that's top 3 in the Cy Young voting type numbers most years.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby etched Chaos » Thu Jun 16, 2011 20:38:56

lethal wrote:
The B1G Piece wrote:Quick little update on the four pitchers:

29-14, 2.79 ERA, 1.077 WHIP, 4.932 K/BB, 8.594 K/9, 6.855 IP per start.


Prorate the wins and losses and that's top 3 in the Cy Young voting type numbers most years.


They should just award our front 4 a Cy Young.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby z ipper » Thu Jun 16, 2011 20:47:07

The B1G Piece wrote:Quick little update on the four pitchers:

29-14, 2.79 ERA, 1.077 WHIP, 4.932 K/BB, 8.594 K/9, 6.855 IP per start.


so on pace for 67 wins; o/u closed at 59.5 most places. people were banging the under too, about 75% iirc.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby swishnicholson » Thu Jun 16, 2011 21:18:29

Game 5 of the 1980 World series currently on CSN.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 22:11:30

Phils' recent success has dampened somewhat the "We need a right handed bat" talk, and if we assume that John Mayberry isn't the answer (though I'd still give him at least a platoon shot with Ibanez, but frankly I am beginning to wonder if Ibanez could even hold up his end of a platoon), any interest in Torii Hunter? I didn't realize he was a FA at the end of the season. This article suggests the Angels are in a holding pattern this year, and are perhaps even willing to sell. Hunter has a FNTC, but if he suspects he won't be back with the Angels, I don't think he'd veto a trade to the Phils. He's been having a down year this season, but in the previous three seasons with the Angels put up a 121 OPS+.

Think he could be had? And at what price?
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby mcare89 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 22:12:42

mozartpc27 wrote:Phils' recent success has dampened somewhat the "We need a right handed bat" talk, and if we assume that John Mayberry isn't the answer (though I'd still give him at least a platoon shot with Ibanez, but frankly I am beginning to wonder if Ibanez could even hold up his end of a platoon), any interest in Torii Hunter? I didn't realize he was a FA at the end of the season. This article suggests the Angels are in a holding pattern this year, and are perhaps even willing to sell. Hunter has a FNTC, but if he suspects he won't be back with the Angels, I don't think he'd veto a trade to the Phils. He's been having a down year this season, but in the previous three seasons with the Angels put up a 121 OPS+.

Think he could be had? And at what price?

He's not a FA at the end of the season. Next season. No way.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby joe table » Thu Jun 16, 2011 22:16:23

He seems like a good dude but makes way too much money and also Utley would get super pissed when he and Jim and Ryno start being consistently late to BP because they are watching the Bernie Mac part of Original Kings of Comedy for the 14th day in a row

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 22:21:08

mcare89 wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:Phils' recent success has dampened somewhat the "We need a right handed bat" talk, and if we assume that John Mayberry isn't the answer (though I'd still give him at least a platoon shot with Ibanez, but frankly I am beginning to wonder if Ibanez could even hold up his end of a platoon), any interest in Torii Hunter? I didn't realize he was a FA at the end of the season. This article suggests the Angels are in a holding pattern this year, and are perhaps even willing to sell. Hunter has a FNTC, but if he suspects he won't be back with the Angels, I don't think he'd veto a trade to the Phils. He's been having a down year this season, but in the previous three seasons with the Angels put up a 121 OPS+.

Think he could be had? And at what price?

He's not a FA at the end of the season. Next season. No way.


Reading skills FAIL.

Although, with Ibanez coming off the books, and Oswalt too, in 2012...
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby mcare89 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 22:28:27

mozartpc27 wrote:
mcare89 wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:Phils' recent success has dampened somewhat the "We need a right handed bat" talk, and if we assume that John Mayberry isn't the answer (though I'd still give him at least a platoon shot with Ibanez, but frankly I am beginning to wonder if Ibanez could even hold up his end of a platoon), any interest in Torii Hunter? I didn't realize he was a FA at the end of the season. This article suggests the Angels are in a holding pattern this year, and are perhaps even willing to sell. Hunter has a FNTC, but if he suspects he won't be back with the Angels, I don't think he'd veto a trade to the Phils. He's been having a down year this season, but in the previous three seasons with the Angels put up a 121 OPS+.

Think he could be had? And at what price?

He's not a FA at the end of the season. Next season. No way.


Reading skills FAIL.

Although, with Ibanez coming off the books, and Oswalt too, in 2012...

Hunter makes 18M this year and next. Picking him up for the stretch still puts the Phillies on the hook for ~24M. Unless the Angels are willing to foot the bill for all of this year and at least 9M next year if not more, not a chance.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby swishnicholson » Thu Jun 16, 2011 22:33:08

mozartpc27 wrote:
mcare89 wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:Phils' recent success has dampened somewhat the "We need a right handed bat" talk, and if we assume that John Mayberry isn't the answer (though I'd still give him at least a platoon shot with Ibanez, but frankly I am beginning to wonder if Ibanez could even hold up his end of a platoon), any interest in Torii Hunter? I didn't realize he was a FA at the end of the season. This article suggests the Angels are in a holding pattern this year, and are perhaps even willing to sell. Hunter has a FNTC, but if he suspects he won't be back with the Angels, I don't think he'd veto a trade to the Phils. He's been having a down year this season, but in the previous three seasons with the Angels put up a 121 OPS+.

Think he could be had? And at what price?

He's not a FA at the end of the season. Next season. No way.


Reading skills FAIL.

Although, with Ibanez coming off the books, and Oswalt too, in 2012...


As noted, it's academic anyway, but without having seen Hunter play this year what stand sour for me is that he was caught 12 times in 21 attempts stealing last year and has only stolen 2 bases this year, Plus he's grounded into a league leading 19 double plays already this year. That tells me his speed is gone and that's a huge part of is game. I think most likely he's at best a part time player next year.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby LongDrive » Thu Jun 16, 2011 22:34:40

•The Phillies "are making inquiries on established and pricey veterans" as they search for a right-handed hitting outfielder, reports ESPN's Buster Olney. We covered this topic on Monday, under the impression that pricey players were not a fit. If the Phillies do have these types on the radar, players like Michael Cuddyer and Ryan Ludwick could enter the mix in my opinion.



Wouln't mind Cuddyer.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff V: The Umpires Strike Back

Unread postby Trent Steele » Thu Jun 16, 2011 22:35:35

Hunter is basically a RH Ibanez this point. Do not want at all.
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