2011 Random Phillies Stuff IV: A New Injury

by **jerseyhoya** » Fri May 06, 2011 11:16:23

The Phillies have thus far benefited from a schedule where they did not have to face the Philadelphia Phillies

by **Eem** » Fri May 06, 2011 11:25:00

jerseyhoya wrote:The Phillies have thus far benefited from a schedule where they did not have to face the Philadelphia Phillies

by **swishnicholson** » Fri May 06, 2011 13:34:48

TenuredVulture wrote:Did you know that currently, in the NL, there are 6 teams with winning records, half of them in the East.
And the Phillies have a 3-2 record against winning teams.

Yeah, it's just kind of a silly stat to me, especially this early. Here are the records of the other winning teams vs. winning teams.

STL 6-4
Cin 2-4
Col. 1-2
Fla 9-6
Atl 3-6

The "they've only beaten losing teams" argument really applies more to Atlanta and the Reds, if at all. and the whole thing places a lot more importance on beating a team that is 15-16 over one that is 16-15 than really exists.

by **smitty** » Fri May 06, 2011 13:41:51

That's good info Swish. And you're right, it's way early for the computer numbers stuff to mean all that much.

I do think, though, that the Phils will be playing better teams in the Fish; Braves; Cards; Rox; Rangers and Reds. Those teams are better than the Mets; the depleted Nats; the Padres and the Astros for example.

by **etched Chaos** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:13:42

Are we really punishing our team for just beating whats in front of us? Its not our fault we've been smashing on chumps, that's who we were scheduled to play and that's who we beat.

by **smitty** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:18:54

I think it' simply a realization that the teams they will play in the next few weeks are better than the teams they have played thus far. I'm not sure anyone is making more of it than that.

by **etched Chaos** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:31:38

smitty wrote:I think it' simply a realization that the teams they will play in the next few weeks are better than the teams they have played thus far. I'm not sure anyone is making more of it than that.

Why do we need to take this into account? Sure we're going to play better teams but that doesn't mean we're not going to beat them too. For all our victories this team was hardly firing on all cylinders, with the injuries we've suffered and the sporadic offense, the only constant has been that our pitching>everyone else.

by **Trent Steele** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:40:38

You know what else doesn't matter? Pretty much everything except this team being healthy and playing well heading into October. Because there's virtually no chance this team doesn't win 90+ games and make the playoffs. 3rd order wins and SOS and whatever nonsense you want to jerk off about is irrelevant to what's going to happen in the NLDS. Face it, we're the Yankees of the NL and no one will care if they win 92 or 95 or 102 or 111 if they don't make it to the WS.

by **jerseyhoya** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:48:26

etched Chaos wrote:
smitty wrote:I think it' simply a realization that the teams they will play in the next few weeks are better than the teams they have played thus far. I'm not sure anyone is making more of it than that.

Why do we need to take this into account? Sure we're going to play better teams but that doesn't mean we're not going to beat them too. For all our victories this team was hardly firing on all cylinders, with the injuries we've suffered and the sporadic offense, the only constant has been that our pitching>everyone else.

It doesn't mean we're not going to beat the better teams, but it's easier to be the Nationals than the Braves. It doesn't mean our record is invalid or something, just means it's gonna be tricky to maintain the gaudy .700 winning percentage over the next few weeks.

by **WheelsFellOff** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:50:26

Next you'll tell me Polanco won't finish the season at .500

by **Soren** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:51:20

Trent Steele wrote:You know what else doesn't matter? Pretty much everything except this team being healthy and playing well heading into October. Because there's virtually no chance this team doesn't win 90+ games and make the playoffs. 3rd order wins and SOS and whatever nonsense you want to jerk off about is irrelevant to what's going to happen in the NLDS. Face it, we're the Yankees of the NL and no one will care if they win 92 or 95 or 102 or 111 if they don't make it to the WS.

by **Napalm** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:55:20

jerseyhoya wrote:
etched Chaos wrote:
smitty wrote:I think it' simply a realization that the teams they will play in the next few weeks are better than the teams they have played thus far. I'm not sure anyone is making more of it than that.

Why do we need to take this into account? Sure we're going to play better teams but that doesn't mean we're not going to beat them too. For all our victories this team was hardly firing on all cylinders, with the injuries we've suffered and the sporadic offense, the only constant has been that our pitching>everyone else.

It doesn't mean we're not going to beat the better teams, but it's easier to be the Nationals than the Braves. It doesn't mean our record is invalid or something, just means it's gonna be tricky to maintain the gaudy .700 winning percentage over the next few weeks.

Won't we just attribute that to some type of may/june/july slump anyway? hell, maybe utley coming back is enough to power them through what a typical baseball team goes through every season.

the phillies are so boss, and I never use the word boss.

by **Grotewold** » Fri May 06, 2011 14:57:09

Just keep tucking away wins with your head down

by **TenuredVulture** » Fri May 06, 2011 15:27:26

etched Chaos wrote:Are we really punishing our team for just beating whats in front of us? Its not our fault we've been smashing on chumps, that's who we were scheduled to play and that's who we beat.

I think a lot of this thread is tongue in cheek belaboring the obvious, not punishing the Phils. Also, it serves to remind us that if the Phils lose one against the Braves or something it's not the end of the world.

by **smitty** » Fri May 06, 2011 15:33:11

TenuredVulture wrote:
etched Chaos wrote:Are we really punishing our team for just beating whats in front of us? Its not our fault we've been smashing on chumps, that's who we were scheduled to play and that's who we beat.

I think a lot of this thread is tongue in cheek belaboring the obvious, not punishing the Phils. Also, it serves to remind us that if the Phils lose one against the Braves or something it's not the end of the world.

Hah!!!!

Really?

Anyways, you so right.

This thread is kinda weird in that everyone who has posted in it is pretty much right. The Phils are in great shape at this point with that record and doing it without Utley and some other guys. We've played teams that aren't so hot but who cares? The rest of the NL isn't really all that good. A LOT of things have to go wrong for this club not to win the division.

It wasn't THAT long ago when a lot of things had to go RIGHT for this franchise to make the playoffs. All in all, it's pretty sweet.

by **GrizzledVeteran** » Fri May 06, 2011 15:51:27

Salisbury says Oswalt won't pitch Saturday and may hit DL because of back.

by **CalvinBall** » Fri May 06, 2011 15:52:44

GrizzledVeteran wrote:Salisbury says Oswalt won't pitch Saturday and may hit DL because of back.

i thought the bulldozer does all the lifting?

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Fri May 06, 2011 15:53:12

by **Eem** » Fri May 06, 2011 15:53:17

They can put him on the DL retroactive 10 days, keep Worley when Blanton comes up. Get him healthy.

by **swishnicholson** » Fri May 06, 2011 15:54:01

Not good news, although I suppose it does save the Worley bird from extinction.

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