2011 ST Random Phillies Stuff III: The Search for Grit

by **Barry Jive** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:08:46

I'm coming around on the idea of having a superutility guy if they're giving the Phils a ton of money back. I also agree with Trent. And if it's not Utley/Rollins/Polanco, it'll be Ibanez or Victorino.

by **Barry Jive** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:10:18

He's not like Dobbs/Helms bad at third, right?

by **Soren** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:15:39

Barry Jive wrote:He's not like Dobbs/Helms bad at third, right?

per fangraphs for their careers:

Dobbs has a -4.7 UZR/120

Helms -9.3

Young -7.5

so...yea probably

by **Trent Steele** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:18:15

Barry Jive wrote:He's not like Dobbs/Helms bad at third, right?

Per Dewan

2009: -17 (34th overall)
2010 - 8 (27th overall)

so, yeah, he blows terribly

by **Rockinghorse** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:31:07

Dallas version of WIP speculating Oswalt for Young :lol:

by **FTN** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:13:40

Trading Oswalt for Young straight up would be horrendous.

Unless Rube knows Oswalt's arm is literally ready to fall off

by **Barry Jive** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:36:21

Thanks, Soren and Trent. Disregard me being okay with this.

by **karn** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:40:56

orangie just txted me utley is starting?

by **Napalm** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:41:50

starting to fall apart maybe

by **Monkeyboy** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:56:39

PA_Dan wrote:On a positive note, if we get Young we also get his famous #1 fan...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6-ks_UP988[/youtube]

child abuse!! I like when he just lets the hat drop to the ground.

by **Trent Steele** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 13:35:21

ek wrote:LA not liking Ruiz's swing. too slow through the zone

lol. like it was quick through the zone last year. he's 47 years old ffs. he'll be fine. 270/20/85

by **Trent Steele** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 13:44:47

ek wrote:ruiz not ibanez

wow, i'm getting stupiderr

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 14:27:37

You just know that, after their respective ST's, Lee will start off un-hittable and Halladay will have a bit of a rough start.

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 14:32:24

sources are saying an oswalt/young plus cash swap could happen any time.

by **BigEd76** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 14:35:18

are they

by **Napalm** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 14:36:32

sources are saying i'm going to murder this wawa hoagie in less than a minute

by **Soren** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 14:38:46

sources are saying I might donkey punch RAJ

by **smitty** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 14:55:58

Lee is done after six innings. 4 hits; 2 runs; 2 Ks; 2 BBs; 1HR. Had problems with control of his command.

A guy with a lot of consonants pitching for the Jays. 4-2 Phils.

Good BABIP and Francisco is 3 for 3.

by **FTN** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 15:06:24

Trading Oswalt for Young would be worse than Cliff Lee for 3 prospects.

I cant take 30 more Kendrick starts

by **etched Chaos** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 15:08:54

FTN wrote:Trading Oswalt for Young would be worse than Cliff Lee for 3 prospects.

I cant take 30 more Kendrick starts

Does Oswalt still have his no-trade clause? If so, I do not see him leaving.

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