pacino wrote:Or you could watch the football game on FOX?

Oh, did it start?

I'm one of those "football season ends when the Eagles season ends" kind of guys.

VoxOrion wrote:Crappy Sunday afternoon with no football and nothing to watch?

Warrior Queen Boudica is on History right now. Pretty cool so far - documentary about a Celtic Queen that beat back the Romans.

I named my kitten after her.

No one has anything to say about BSG?

It was meh. The cliffhanger was kind of lame, and rang just like last season's mid season cliffhanger - it just wasn't possible that the return episode wouldn't have the event cancelled.

Its funny, I was thinking Starbuck might be the "chosen one" back in the first season, then forgot about it. Next episode looks really, really boring - is this love square storyline interesting to anyone? I'm prepared for more "Blame Caprica First" naval gazing about what the Galacticans will do with Baltar re: torture... and I don't feel like the show has any better direction now that they have this supernova to follow than they did last season. In other words, this whole eye of Jupiter thing was for nothing, and we're no closer to understanding who the "Five" are. I hate when a show sets up a big story line and does nothing with it.

I really was hoping they were going to take the opportunity to kill Dwala off when she was going after Starbuck and wrap this up a la Fat Apollo. So much for that.

Man, I really hope the show finds a way to excite me again. Maybe it has gone on too long?

I thought last night was a big step up from the cliffhanger. They found a way to make the internal Cylon dynamic interesting again, and it's generally worthwhile whenever they reshuffle the deck as to who is where. The bit at the end with Helo and Starbuck was surprising; I'm always actually amazed when Helo shows any intelligence.

Absolutely with you, though, on the love square storyline. Having liked the show last night, the preview for next week at the end really deflated me. Who cares? The upside of Starbuck possibly getting killed off is no more of that crap. I wonder if, in what seems like an ongoing tension between the show producers and the network, they were pushed to emphasize that storyline in hopes of drawing viewers from The OC or something.

FWIW, I don't think you'll have to endure navel-gazing over what they do with Baltar. He's already gone through torture; they might put him on trial, but probably will just want whatever information he has. Or throw him out the airlock.

It put an end to the speculation of which Cylon was going to be retired (I think Moore hinted at this earlier in the season in one of his podcasts - everyone assumed it would be Quantum Leap Cylon).

Is whatshername the star that says they will not reup their contract? I assumed it would be Olmos or Bamber. The show can't lose Baltar, it would suxx0rs, even though he hasn't been great lately.

I thought it was neat that there were two different prophesies associated with the Eye of Jupiter - the human one, and the bonus Cylon one.

VoxOrion wrote:It put an end to the speculation of which Cylon was going to be retired (I think Moore hinted at this earlier in the season in one of his podcasts - everyone assumed it would be Quantum Leap Cylon).

Is whatshername the star that says they will not reup their contract? I assumed it would be Olmos or Bamber. The show can't lose Baltar, it would suxx0rs, even though he hasn't been great lately.

I thought it was neat that there were two different prophesies associated with the Eye of Jupiter - the human one, and the bonus Cylon one.

Xena? Not sure whom you're referring to--I didn't know one of the stars was planning to split. I thought I read that one of the 6s was going to be boxed, so that was a pleasant surprise for me--plus I loved the pullback shot of all the tanks. Stuff like that always reminds me of the last scene from Raiders, one of my all-time favorite movie moments.

Maybe they should just wrap up the season, shoot a two- or four-hour movie/mini-series, and call it a day. The concept is starting to feel stretched.

Are they implying that Starbuck is a cylon or did I get something mixed up?

Dean Stockwell is the 'quantum leap' cylon

I love BSG but I only have been watching it on DVD via Netflix. I'm at the midpoint of season 2 and taking a break from it at the moment. I have to try to not read your posts about the new episodes. I'd ask for them to be whited out but that's not fair since they are not really spoilers. Has anyone heard if the first half of season 3 will be released before the rest of the season, in the same way season 2 was?

The Red Tornado wrote:Are they implying that Starbuck is a cylon or did I get something mixed up?

No - that she's the real chosen one. The implication (although not explicit) was that Roslyn was not ever the chosen one (she didn't die). Baltar thinks he's the chosen one (whether that's the human one or some kind of separate cylon one, I don't know). I'm thinking that they're telling us Starbuck is and has always been. If she's a Cylon, that'd probably work too, considering her ability to fly that raider and some of the other problems she's had, and that whole incident at "the Farm" - in hindsight it would probably look pretty good if they told us she's been one all along.

TheDude24 wrote:I love BSG but I only have been watching it on DVD via Netflix. I'm at the midpoint of season 2 and taking a break from it at the moment. I have to try to not read your posts about the new episodes. I'd ask for them to be whited out but that's not fair since they are not really spoilers. Has anyone heard if the first half of season 3 will be released before the rest of the season, in the same way season 2 was?

Amazon lists it - but no date yet. It looks like they're going to do one big boxed set, instead of the two (considering how short the mid-season break was, it makes sense).

I wasn't that interested in last night's episode, I watched a lot of the marathon on MLK, Jr. day and I think I'm suffering from BSG-overload. I was also hoping that Dualla would be offed trying to rescue Starbuck and I am a little concerned about in what direction the show is headed (I missed next week's previews, but the love pyramid has just about run its course).

21McBride wrote:I wasn't that interested in last night's episode, I watched a lot of the marathon on MLK, Jr. day and I think I'm suffering from BSG-overload. I was also hoping that Dualla would be offed trying to rescue Starbuck and I am a little concerned about in what direction the show is headed (I missed next week's previews, but the love pyramid has just about run its course).

I didn't watch much of that marathon, but I suspect the fatigue one would have anyway was made much worse by the vertiginous drop in quality from the first bunch of Season 3 episodes to the last handful...

I cant believe that it appears that theyre going to devote yet another episode to the whole starbuck/appollo/dualla thing. I really hope that it's just the previews and stays a side story.

yeah, it's pretty hard to miss -- that boxing episode was especially dreary, despite the revelation that Adama and the prez are stoners.

decent recap on Television Without Pity, for those fans that didn't pay much attention or missed it as a result of the late game. Apparently they agree on the love triangle

Next week: the Trial of Gaius Baltar begins, along with mysteries like: How come Kara was painting the Eye of Jupiter back in her old Caprican apartment? What will happen to Athena and Caprica? Will Lee and Dualla and Sam and Kara ever figure their stuff out? Will anyone ever care?

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jemagee wrote:I don't think it's as good as snow crash, i don't think ANYTHING is as good as snow crash...Snow Crash to me is genre revolutionizing works that rivals Neuromancer for it's import in the science fiction genre (of coourse, again, another book that just stopped).

I have read all his stand alone books and enjoyed them all...i have all 3 hard cover books in the baroque cycle but haven't yet had the courage to delve into them...historical stuff, even fictional historical stuff is always hard for me...i've never been able to get more than 30 pages into the difference engine and i'm a huge gibson fan, even loved the most recent more 'current' one (he has a new book he's working on according to his blog)

Funny that I haven't read Snow Crash yet -- I got about halfway through the audiobook version once. The Baroque cycle was tough to start. I picked up the first before a vacation, on the discount tabe no less, and got a couple chapters in. That's when VoxJr started a his medical problems, and I put it down for nearly two years. But once I got going, I couldn't stop.

I love Stephenson, and Snow Crash is probably the most fun. But the one I thought was the very best was "Cryptonomicon." Mind-blowing stuff and probably as good an examination of how technology evolves and "matters" as anything out there. That was the book that, IMO, put Stephenson up there with the po-mo gods like Pynchon and Delillo.

The Baroques were really ambitious--maybe more so than anything I've ever read. And ultimately I thought they were worthwhile. But they are tough sledding, no doubt about it. One might need to be as big a geek about both history and epic fiction as I am to really get through 'em.

Cryptonomicon was definitely the best (without reading SnowCrash). And I'm a sucker for historical-type fiction, so that's what got me through The Baroques.

anyone else looking forward to the return of Heroes tonight?

The Red Tornado wrote:anyone else looking forward to the return of Heroes tonight?

Me, me, me....although I probably won't get around to watching it until later in the week.

The Red Tornado wrote:anyone else looking forward to the return of Heroes tonight?

Heck yeah, I've missed that show. I'm watching this instead of 24 now. I'm interested to see where it goes and to see more of the heroes meet up. Sylar's broken out, Nikki turned herself in, the Haitian let Claire kep her memories, Peter has just collapsed, and Hiro and Issac have teamed up. What's next- looking for more freaks on papa Suresh's or Mr. Bennet's list?

I can't wait for Heroes - I finally caught up. Plus my main man Doctor Who joins the cast tonight.