Things about Baseball which could be interpreted as random

Postby cartersDad26 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 08:07:20

JFLNYC wrote:Someone please send them TMac's reel and tell them we'll throw in their choice of Wheels or Sarge at no extra cost.


Should we be worried about Franzke? isn't he from Texas and a big Rangers fan?
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Postby Barry Jive » Tue Oct 12, 2010 16:56:13

Trent just name-dropped Gene Schall in reference to our alma mater's famous sports alumni and I went Googling and came across this awesome list Ted Silary put together in '07 for his 30-year All-Star baseball teams. It's an awesome, odd mix of old friends (Mike Costanzo, Schall), obscure pro ballplayers (Mark Gubicza, Ben Davis), and SMUGGY HIMSELF. But it was bizarre looking through, finding people who went to my high school that I saw in hallways, kids who I played in the same baseball leagues as growing up, kids I graduated with.

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Postby Titlehungry » Tue Oct 12, 2010 17:48:55

FTN wrote:
Phillies bench coach Pete Mackanin said Sunday that he is hoping to be considered for the Blue Jays' managerial opening.

Mackanin first wants to focus on guiding his Phillies as far as possible in this year's postseason, but he's familiar with Toronto's system and is hoping to be considered as a possible successor to Cito Gaston. "Toronto has a lot of good players," Mackanin told the Toronto Sun. "We don’t see them a lot, being in the other league. Everyone knows about their power potential. I really liked what I saw of Ricky Romero and Shaun Marcum."


I really liked what I saw of Jose Bautista and Roy Halladay

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Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 21:13:34

Jair Jurrjens on the next Braves manager:

Pitcher Jair Jurrjens said he hopes the next manager is in the same mold as Cox, who didn't ask much of his players beyond working hard and showing up on time. If they followed those two simple rules (and abided by a couple of other minor pet peeves: No loud music or using cell phones in the clubhouse), they knew Cox had their back.

"When you come in here now, you know what kind of rules you have," Jurrjens said. "You hope it's not going to be different, just the same type of guy, someone who let's us do our thing and have fun. I don't want a sergeant to come in here with a bunch of rules."


65-97, Jurrjens released by Memorial Day.
"I'm in a bar with the games sound turned off and that Cespedes home run still sounded like inevitability."

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Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 21:16:53

Brooks Conrad, whose three errors in Game 3 helped shorten Cox's final season, ran into his now ex-manager in a hallway. They hugged and Conrad asked if Cox planned to be at Turner Field on Wednesday. Cox said he would be.

"Would you mind signing a few things for me?" Conrad asked.

"I'll sign anything you want," Cox said with a smile.


"I'd say you ruined my final season, but it's my fault for leaving you in in the first place. Senility is a bitch.

Yours,

Bobby Cox"
"I'm in a bar with the games sound turned off and that Cespedes home run still sounded like inevitability."

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Postby Fusilli Jerry » Wed Oct 13, 2010 04:04:58

Pretty cool article, made cooler by the fact that it starts out talking about Roy's no-no.

For Baseball Archivists, a Tag Ends Every Play
By JOHN BRANCH

SECAUCUS, N.J. — Most baseball fans saw it as a dribbler in front of the plate, a throw to first and the completion of a no-hitter for Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Roy Halladay.

To those whose job is to put the moment into Major League Baseball’s new, digitized archives as soon as possible, it was a furious series of 38 mouse clicks. The play that completed the second no-hitter in postseason history was instantly tagged with various descriptions so that it could be easy retrieved in coming years.

There are more than 500 possible tags to choose from, and among those chosen at that moment were “ground out,” “from knees,” “last out,” “premier plays,” “milestone call” and “hugging.”

Strangely, one tag not offered was “no-hitter.” Maybe soon.

This is how baseball’s archives are created now — not by merely storing videotapes on a shelf, as it has been done for decades, but by a team of “loggers” whose job is to watch every game as it happens (2,430 during the regular season, and up to 41 in the postseason) and add computerized notes on every play, no matter how ordinary....

It is not only the game action that is tagged. If a squirrel runs onto the field, the play will be tagged with “animal.” If there is a shot of a man sipping a beer, there is a “drinking” option under the “fans” category. Those frequent shots of boats bobbing in San Francisco Bay during Giants games are tagged with “boat.” “Pine tar,” “rosin,” “babies,” “bat boys/girls” and “on-deck circle” have their own notations. So do “fist pump,” “curtain call” and “throw equipment....”

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Postby jurassic5 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 06:28:34

if you're bored and/or a baseball junkie that can't wait for Saturday and awake at this time, a game 5 (elim game) between Samsung and Doosan is being played right now. it's the semi's of the korean baseball organization, the winner goes to the Korean Series.

justin tv http://ko.justin.tv/directory/sports# has 3 feeds.

tim redding plays for samsung and former phil les walrond for doosan.

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Postby drsmooth » Wed Oct 13, 2010 08:35:27

Fusilli Jerry wrote:Pretty cool article, made cooler by the fact that it starts out talking about Roy's no-no.

For Baseball Archivists, a Tag Ends Every Play
By JOHN BRANCH

SECAUCUS, N.J. — Most baseball fans saw it as a dribbler in front of the plate, a throw to first and the completion of a no-hitter for Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Roy Halladay.

To those whose job is to put the moment into Major League Baseball’s new, digitized archives as soon as possible, it was a furious series of 38 mouse clicks. The play that completed the second no-hitter in postseason history was instantly tagged with various descriptions so that it could be easy retrieved in coming years.

There are more than 500 possible tags to choose from, and among those chosen at that moment were “ground out,” “from knees,” “last out,” “premier plays,” “milestone call” and “hugging.”

Strangely, one tag not offered was “no-hitter.” Maybe soon.

This is how baseball’s archives are created now — not by merely storing videotapes on a shelf, as it has been done for decades, but by a team of “loggers” whose job is to watch every game as it happens (2,430 during the regular season, and up to 41 in the postseason) and add computerized notes on every play, no matter how ordinary....

It is not only the game action that is tagged. If a squirrel runs onto the field, the play will be tagged with “animal.” If there is a shot of a man sipping a beer, there is a “drinking” option under the “fans” category. Those frequent shots of boats bobbing in San Francisco Bay during Giants games are tagged with “boat.” “Pine tar,” “rosin,” “babies,” “bat boys/girls” and “on-deck circle” have their own notations. So do “fist pump,” “curtain call” and “throw equipment....”


I mistakenly put this in the random Phillies thread, but looks like there's a call for it here:

This is probably the opposite of random:

For Baseball Archivists, a Tag Ends Every Play
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Postby Rockinghorse » Wed Oct 13, 2010 08:52:23

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette front page today

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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Oct 13, 2010 09:32:16

drsmooth wrote:
Fusilli Jerry wrote:Pretty cool article, made cooler by the fact that it starts out talking about Roy's no-no.

For Baseball Archivists, a Tag Ends Every Play
By JOHN BRANCH

SECAUCUS, N.J. — Most baseball fans saw it as a dribbler in front of the plate, a throw to first and the completion of a no-hitter for Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Roy Halladay.

To those whose job is to put the moment into Major League Baseball’s new, digitized archives as soon as possible, it was a furious series of 38 mouse clicks. The play that completed the second no-hitter in postseason history was instantly tagged with various descriptions so that it could be easy retrieved in coming years.

There are more than 500 possible tags to choose from, and among those chosen at that moment were “ground out,” “from knees,” “last out,” “premier plays,” “milestone call” and “hugging.”

Strangely, one tag not offered was “no-hitter.” Maybe soon.

This is how baseball’s archives are created now — not by merely storing videotapes on a shelf, as it has been done for decades, but by a team of “loggers” whose job is to watch every game as it happens (2,430 during the regular season, and up to 41 in the postseason) and add computerized notes on every play, no matter how ordinary....

It is not only the game action that is tagged. If a squirrel runs onto the field, the play will be tagged with “animal.” If there is a shot of a man sipping a beer, there is a “drinking” option under the “fans” category. Those frequent shots of boats bobbing in San Francisco Bay during Giants games are tagged with “boat.” “Pine tar,” “rosin,” “babies,” “bat boys/girls” and “on-deck circle” have their own notations. So do “fist pump,” “curtain call” and “throw equipment....”


I mistakenly put this in the random Phillies thread, but looks like there's a call for it here:

This is probably the opposite of random:

For Baseball Archivists, a Tag Ends Every Play

This seems a little weird to me, because if it's an institutionally controlled Encoded Archival Description type system, there's no such thing as a tag not being offered. Maybe their interface neglected to make a button for it, but I assume they can type in the no-hitter tag and go from there.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Oct 13, 2010 09:58:41

I was listening to that idiot (I can't remember his name at the moment) on Sirius Maddog radio in the evening and he said something about 2 wild card teams from each league in the playoffs last year. This is the first I've heard of this--anything to it?

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Postby BassGuiFloyd » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:07:02

TenuredVulture wrote:I was listening to that idiot (I can't remember his name at the moment) on Sirius Maddog radio in the evening and he said something about 2 wild card teams from each league in the playoffs last year. This is the first I've heard of this--anything to it?


What do you mean?
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Postby drsmooth » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:10:16

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
This is probably the opposite of random:

For Baseball Archivists, a Tag Ends Every Play

This seems a little weird to me, because if it's an institutionally controlled Encoded Archival Description type system, there's no such thing as a tag not being offered. Maybe their interface neglected to make a button for it, but I assume they can type in the no-hitter tag and go from there.


Not to go non-random, but the description of MLB's system makes it sound highly non-standard (homegrown). For example, the article notes a "tagger" actively time-stamping a picture/vid clip. Really? That's not something that could be automated?

The tagging process seems highly arbitrary. For instance the closing quote where the archivist muses about how great it would be to have a "sunglasses" tag: I would think "articles of clothing" identifiers alone would keep a legion of taggers busy for a quite long time.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:05:59

BassGuiFloyd wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:I was listening to that idiot (I can't remember his name at the moment) on Sirius Maddog radio in the evening and he said something about 2 wild card teams from each league in the playoffs last year. This is the first I've heard of this--anything to it?


What do you mean?


Duh--I meant next year.

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Postby Grotewold » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:10:05

There are rumors that Selig has already agreed to adding another wild card in each league starting next year. The two wild cards in each league would have a "play-in" game, with the loser going home and the winner facing the top division winner next.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:19:47

Grotewold wrote:There are rumors that Selig has already agreed to adding another wild card in each league starting next year. The two wild cards in each league would have a "play-in" game, with the loser going home and the winner facing the top division winner next.


It would have been ironic if that were in place this year, and the Yankees were booted out of the playoffs by Chicago.

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Postby JUburton » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:23:39

Grotewold wrote:There are rumors that Selig has already agreed to adding another wild card in each league starting next year. The two wild cards in each league would have a "play-in" game, with the loser going home and the winner facing the top division winner next.
Horrible. Just horrible.

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Postby Bucky » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:24:38

I think that actually makes a lot of sense. It would help damper the Bobby Cox "I don't care how we get there" mentality- the 2 wild card teams would incur a lot more risk with the one game play-in where anything could happen.

It would also give the divison champs a little more leg up, since the wild card teams would likely have to use their best pitchers in the play-in game.

Basically it makes it a lot more desirable to win the division than settling for a wild card berth. Sign me up.

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Postby Bucky » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:28:49

Negatives:

-longer playoffs
-imagine the plethora of tiebreaker scenarios possible

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Postby SideshowBob » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:32:00

Grotewold wrote:There are rumors that Selig has already agreed to adding another wild card in each league starting next year. The two wild cards in each league would have a "play-in" game, with the loser going home and the winner facing the top division winner next.


I actually always liked this idea (it's been around for years, though MLB has recently been considering it). It puts so much more emphasis on winning the division versus being a wild card, which is a very good thing. It also potentially makes more teams "in the running" for the playoffs in a given season, to maintain interest. The biggest downside would be if the two Wild Card teams are no where near winning their divisions but in no threat of not being the Wild Card since they wouldn't have the "pennant chase" they'd have now where they'd be competing with each other for 1 spot.

It would have added a ton of fire to the lackluster pennant chase that the Yanks and Rays had this season because winning the division would have actually been really important.

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