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by **BigEd76** » Wed May 12, 2010 11:34:51

TheDude24 wrote:Remind me again why Millwood deserves to be hated? Was it the glove-throwing non-incident? Or just that he didn't live up to expectations after setting the bar high with his no-hitter?

The Wade hate had a lot to do with it. He made it sound like we got Halladay for Johnny Estrada, and the guy's had double-digit losses almost every year in his career, then in September when the Phils needed him most for a playoff run, he could barely get through 5 innings in every start, the Phils lost 4 of the 5, and the friggin Fish end up going on to win the World Series instead. Then when everyone assumed he was one-and-done, Wade offers $11M arbitration thinking he won't take it, and when he did, it ate up money that could've been used to fix the bullpen, and sure enough he goes 9-6 with an ERA near 5.00 and a WHIP near 1.500 and the Phils finished 10 games out. Total dog. Loved the no-hitter, but that's it....

by **Grotewold** » Wed May 12, 2010 11:35:33

Old Friend Doug Glanville appears on today's Fresh Air

by **Soren** » Wed May 12, 2010 11:36:02

by **joe table** » Wed May 12, 2010 11:37:16

I wonder if there were message boards in 2004 where fans ripping Millwood and his 4.85 ERA were reminded about his BABIP

by **BigEd76** » Wed May 12, 2010 11:39:18

PhilliesPhans was around back then. I don't remember BABIP though.....just a lot of anger that kept getting cleaned up by Julio....

by **Grotewold** » Wed May 12, 2010 11:39:49

joe table wrote:I wonder if there were message boards in 2004 where fans ripping Millwood and his 4.85 ERA were reminded about his BABIP

I got in some real barn burners on the other topics section of "The OC" forum

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed May 12, 2010 11:44:19

Soren wrote:

OK, so look at that. That Cubs logo is clearly screened on, right? It wouldn't be shiny otherwise. The Mitchell & Ness 80s-era throwbacks always have these logos sewn right on to the jerseys, but I don't think that is accurate in a lot of cases. I think a lot of teams used a heavy screened logo in the 1980s instead.

/End random observation

by **TheDude24** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:05:09

Ok, I get it then. I thought people hated Millwood for something about his personality, but it's nothing like that. It's just that he was an inconsistent pitcher for his first few years without Leo Mazzone. Ed Wade couldn't predict that, but then again, he didn't have to offer him the arbitration.

by **threecount** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:12:49

Zolecki reporting that Lidge has been sent back to Philly due to his elbow stiffness..

by **Eem** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:14:37

It was nice knowin' ya, Domonic...

by **Eem** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:15:08

And by the way, fuck you Ryan Madson.

by **phatj** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:16:48

TheDude24 wrote:Ok, I get it then. I thought people hated Millwood for something about his personality, but it's nothing like that. It's just that he was an inconsistent pitcher for his first few years without Leo Mazzone. Ed Wade couldn't predict that, but then again, he didn't have to offer him the arbitration.

I think Millwood hurling his glove into the crowd as he walked off the field following his final start of 2003 (at the last ever game at the Vet, no less) sealed his fate with a lot of people.

by **WheelsFellOff** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:17:31

threecount wrote:Zolecki reporting that Lidge has been sent back to Philly due to his elbow stiffness..

The whole pitching in 30 deg. temps with freezing rain may have something to do with the stiffness...

by **Trent Steele** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:30:41

oy. It seems highly doubtful he would pitch again before they return home on Monday. Just DL him now

by **Bucky** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:39:19

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:45:07

TheDude24 wrote:Great article on Jamie Moyer. It answers the question of why he won't retire.

Back in Florida, his wife and eight children stay at the family home until school ends in June

by **BigEd76** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:56:05

...Katilina Rose (4/18/06) and Yenifer (8/24/06)

hmm

by **karn** » Wed May 12, 2010 14:02:07

anyone have a make a wish that they could lend me? all i want in life is to see chooch bedecked in raiders gear and big gold blangblang and say in his sweet panamanian voce, "jus ween bb"

by **JFLNYC** » Wed May 12, 2010 14:02:58

BigEd76 wrote:
...Katilina Rose (4/18/06) and Yenifer (8/24/06)

hmm

Ran short of good ideas.

by **CrashburnAlley** » Wed May 12, 2010 20:47:14

Ryan Howard's ISO is 120 points lower than his career average and his HR/FB is half his career average. Last 10 hits have been singles.

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