Cliff Lee is a Phillies!!! We did it!

by **SideshowBob** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:59:56

mozartpc27 wrote:See, Knapp/Talyor/Marson/Donald is not an appreciably better price as far as I am concerned than Drabek/Carrasco/Marson/Donald, which I think could land us Halladay if we offered it.

There's been little indication that the Jays would settle for Drabek/Carrasco/Marson/Donald (though who know, maybe they do indeed love Drabek enough to do so). I think most around here would be extremely cool with that as well. Ultimately, we don't know what trade would be better since we don't know what anybody will truly accept.

by **Ace Rothstein** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:59:59

uh oh, its 1pm

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:01:05

SideshowBob wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:See, Knapp/Talyor/Marson/Donald is not an appreciably better price as far as I am concerned than Drabek/Carrasco/Marson/Donald, which I think could land us Halladay if we offered it.

There's been little indication that the Jays would settle for Drabek/Carrasco/Marson/Donald (though who know, maybe they do indeed love Drabek enough to do so). I think most around here would be extremely cool with that as well. Ultimately, we don't know what trade would be better since we don't know what anybody will truly accept.

If I had a choice between Drabek, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Halladay, or Knapp, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Lee... I mean, that isn't a choice, is it? The answer is obvious.

by **Ace Rothstein** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:02:11

ek wrote:
Ace Rothstein wrote:uh oh, its 1pm

what's the significance of that?

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by **slugsrbad** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:02:15

mozartpc27 wrote:
SideshowBob wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:See, Knapp/Talyor/Marson/Donald is not an appreciably better price as far as I am concerned than Drabek/Carrasco/Marson/Donald, which I think could land us Halladay if we offered it.

There's been little indication that the Jays would settle for Drabek/Carrasco/Marson/Donald (though who know, maybe they do indeed love Drabek enough to do so). I think most around here would be extremely cool with that as well. Ultimately, we don't know what trade would be better since we don't know what anybody will truly accept.

If I had a choice between Drabek, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Halladay, or Knapp, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Lee... I mean, that isn't a choice, is it? The answer is obvious.

Trade for both and hope Cleveland and Toronto don't realize they both were traded Taylor/Donald?

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:02:27

ek wrote:
Ace Rothstein wrote:uh oh, its 1pm

what's the significance of that?

MrsVox is doing board maintenance till 3 because a watched pot doesn't boil. Halladay will be a Phillies by the time she's done.

by **Werthless** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:03:02

You've never boiled a pot, jersey.

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:04:03

mozartpc27 wrote:If I had a choice between Drabek, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Halladay, or Knapp, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Lee... I mean, that isn't a choice, is it? The answer is obvious.

I know no one would agree, but I'd rather do Drabek/Happ/Brown for Halladay than Knapp/Taylor/Donald and Marson for Lee.

by **TenuredVulture** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:04:07

I'm just echoing something Stark wrote somewhere a day or two ago, but given the kind of sports town Philadelphia is, at this point Rube almost has to make a deal.

It wouldn't shock me if the Lee stuff wasn't leaked today as a kind of trial balloon. They put the rumor out there (with in my opinion a deal that really favors the Phillies) and see what fan/media reaction is.

by **CFP** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:04:37

Gordon Edes thinks it's almost done:

In return, the Indians would receive right-handed pitching prospects Carlos Carrasco(notes) and Jason Knapp and at least two players from a group that includes catcher Lou Marson(notes), shortstop Jason Donald(notes) and outfielder Michael Taylor, according to sources. Carrasco was scratched from his start for Triple-A Lehigh Valley on Wednesday.

by **SideshowBob** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:04:54

mozartpc27 wrote:If I had a choice between Drabek, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Halladay, or Knapp, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Lee... I mean, that isn't a choice, is it? The answer is obvious.

But that's just making up packages out of thin out and comparing them. Sure, I'd take Halladay in those choices. But those deals are (1) more than has been reported as potentially going for Lee [which may be inaccurate] and (2) less than has been reported as what the Jays want.

Personally, I don't think that the Jays will bite unless we include two of Drabek, Brown or Happ.

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:04:59

Werthless wrote:You've never boiled a pot, jersey.

Says the guy who had a meal plan in college then with his parents and then his wife. I've been cooking for myself for six years, son.

by **lowcountry** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:05:16

It would be the first time Gordon Edes has been right all week.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:05:19

JFLNYC wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:If I had a choice between Drabek, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Halladay, or Knapp, Taylor, Donald, and Marson for Lee... I mean, that isn't a choice, is it? The answer is obvious.

I know no one would agree, but I'd rather do Drabek/Happ/Brown for Halladay than Knapp/Taylor/Donald and Marson for Lee.

I think I agree. Halladay is unquestionably, earth-shatteringly awesome. You get, as they say, what you pay for. I don't really understand the sticker shock around here for a guy like Halladay.

by **Trent Steele** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:05:51

The deal has not been completed, but the Philadelphia Phillies appear on the verge of acquiring left-hander Cliff Lee(notes) from the Cleveland Indians, according to multiple sources Wednesday morning.

In return, the Indians would receive right-handed pitching prospects Carlos Carrasco(notes) and Jason Knapp and at least two players from a group that includes catcher Lou Marson(notes), shortstop Jason Donald(notes) and outfielder Michael Taylor, according to sources. Carrasco was scratched from his start for Triple-A Lehigh Valley on Wednesday.

Gordon Edes

Um, please keep Taylor.

by **TenuredVulture** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:05:54

jerseyhoya wrote:
Werthless wrote:You've never boiled a pot, jersey.

Says the guy who had a meal plan in college then with his parents and then his wife. I've been cooking for myself for six years, son.

Microwaving Taco Bell in a drunken stupor does not count as cooking.

by **The Red Tornado** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:06:02

when has Edes been right this week?

by **Werthless** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:06:21

jerseyhoya wrote:
Werthless wrote:You've never boiled a pot, jersey.

Says the guy who had a meal plan in college then with his parents and then his wife. I've been cooking for myself for six years, son.

That's the last time I cook you Elios pizza.

by **Barry Jive** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:07:44

Trent Steele wrote:
The deal has not been completed, but the Philadelphia Phillies appear on the verge of acquiring left-hander Cliff Lee(notes) from the Cleveland Indians, according to multiple sources Wednesday morning.

In return, the Indians would receive right-handed pitching prospects Carlos Carrasco(notes) and Jason Knapp and at least two players from a group that includes catcher Lou Marson(notes), shortstop Jason Donald(notes) and outfielder Michael Taylor, according to sources. Carrasco was scratched from his start for Triple-A Lehigh Valley on Wednesday.

Gordon Edes

Um, please keep Taylor.

So Marson, Donald and Taylor are all in the same group? This shit is retarded.

by **GMAN** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 13:07:57

Trent Steele wrote:
The deal has not been completed, but the Philadelphia Phillies appear on the verge of acquiring left-hander Cliff Lee(notes) from the Cleveland Indians, according to multiple sources Wednesday morning.

In return, the Indians would receive right-handed pitching prospects Carlos Carrasco(notes) and Jason Knapp and at least two players from a group that includes catcher Lou Marson(notes), shortstop Jason Donald(notes) and outfielder Michael Taylor, according to sources. Carrasco was scratched from his start for Triple-A Lehigh Valley on Wednesday.

Gordon Edes

Um, please keep Taylor.

Taylor will be involved or Brown. The price for Lee will be painful.

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