by WilliamC » Wed Jul 29, 2009 17:39:08
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:Anyone have any guesses when Lee will pitch his first game? I'm going to Friday night's game, and would be thrilled to see him pitch...
If they pushed Moyer back, his first start could be Saturday vs Lincecum. That would be incredible.
by PTOITWCFTPP » Wed Jul 29, 2009 17:40:46
WilliamC wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:Anyone have any guesses when Lee will pitch his first game? I'm going to Friday night's game, and would be thrilled to see him pitch...
If they pushed Moyer back, his first start could be Saturday vs Lincecum. That would be incredible.
Oh yes it would be.
by smitty » Wed Jul 29, 2009 17:41:21
WilliamC wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:Anyone have any guesses when Lee will pitch his first game? I'm going to Friday night's game, and would be thrilled to see him pitch...
If they pushed Moyer back, his first start could be Saturday vs Lincecum. That would be incredible.
Oh yes it would be.
by seke2 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 17:41:55
AWESOMEThe Eeming Tree wrote:Does anyone have a nice scouting report of Lee?
by FTN » Wed Jul 29, 2009 17:42:33
If there's a problem with the Philly side, it's that they don't need Lee. They came into Wednesday eight games up in the loss column in the National League East standings, with Baseball Prospectus calling them an 83 percent chance to win the division. Lee makes them a better playoff team, but the playoffs are such a crapshoot that any upgrade only makes a team slightly more likely to win any particular series. It's hard to argue with the value proposition, however -- if you can get an underpaid top-three pitcher in the tougher league without giving up any of your top three prospects, you kind of have to make the trade.
Cleveland's return is going to end up leaning very heavily on 19-year-old right-hander Jason Knapp, currently on the shelf with shoulder fatigue. Knapp is a low-three quarters slinger with a shoulder-heavy arm action, landing on a stiff front leg and struggling to close his front shoulder. He's been sitting in the mid-90s this spring but his curveball and changeup remain below average; it's possible he won't ever have an average curve from that arm slot. The arm strength and the results for a 19-year-old in full-season A-ball are both very impressive, so even with the other concerns he has potential, but he's a high-risk/high-reward guy. Cleveland rarely has guys like this in their system because they tend to draft conservatively, and their best homegrown prospect right now, 20-year-old shortstop Lonnie Chisenhall, was a pick where they broke out of their typical draft philosophy.
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The remaining players headed to Cleveland are inventory. Coming into 2009, Jason Donald, 24, projected as either an average defensive shortstop or above-average second baseman; his bat plays at either position but probably won't at third base, and he performed terribly in Triple-A this year before going down with a torn meniscus in his left knee in June, an injury from which he just returned to Triple-A. If the injured left knee was the true cause of his struggles, then it's a good buy-low move for Cleveland. Right-hander Carlos Carrasco is just 22 and has shown an above-average fastball, but he lacks a plus or even above-average secondary pitch, his command is poor, and his on-field makeup has been a major question for two years; he doesn't respond well to adversity between the lines and, according to multiple sources, was so upset about seeing his name in trade talks last year that he pulled himself from a start during warmups and may have deliberately pitched poorly to try to hurt his trade value. Catcher Lou Marson, 23, makes a lot of contact and controls the strike zone but his swing path takes the bat down to the ball, resulting in a ton of groundballs and therefore little to no power. With Carlos Santana already the catcher of the future in Cleveland, Marson looks like either a future backup or an asset for the Indians to move somewhere else.
by PTOITWCFTPP » Wed Jul 29, 2009 17:43:21
smitty wrote:WilliamC wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:Anyone have any guesses when Lee will pitch his first game? I'm going to Friday night's game, and would be thrilled to see him pitch...
If they pushed Moyer back, his first start could be Saturday vs Lincecum. That would be incredible.
Oh yes it would be.
He pitched on Sunday vs. the Mariners so wouldn't Friday be his next start? I'm not so good with math so maybe it is Saturday.
