MattS wrote:

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Johan Santana says doctors told him it's the triceps tendon that is causing stiffness in his pitching elbow. With pitching coach Dan Warthen and manager Jerry Manuel already on the bus for Lakeland, Fla., Santana said he'll wait until Sunday to map out a plan for pitching. But it's clear he won't be in a Grapefruit League game for a while. Santana said he hopes to throw a light bullpen session on Sunday. He then wants to face hitters in a batting-practice-style setting two or three times before entering a game. With potentially two days rest in between each BP, we're possibly talking two weeks before a game appearance.

pretty please

VFB wrote:

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Johan Santana says doctors told him it's the triceps tendon that is causing stiffness in his pitching elbow. With pitching coach Dan Warthen and manager Jerry Manuel already on the bus for Lakeland, Fla., Santana said he'll wait until Sunday to map out a plan for pitching. But it's clear he won't be in a Grapefruit League game for a while. Santana said he hopes to throw a light bullpen session on Sunday. He then wants to face hitters in a batting-practice-style setting two or three times before entering a game. With potentially two days rest in between each BP, we're possibly talking two weeks before a game appearance.

O'NOES?

TenuredVulture wrote:I'm not saying I'm happy about Santana's injury, but it does have an upside.

Bakestar wrote:I'm really not happy about this; I try to be an objective baseball fan who appreciates greatness in all its forms.

I like the idea of Santana going 25-4 with a 2.00 ERA, while the Mets as a team go 50-112.

JFLNYC wrote:Schadenfreude.

CrashburnAlley wrote:I want the Mets to lose fair and square; I don't want them to have a built-in excuse. It will be a sour victory if the Phillies win the division and Santana is sidelined for any significant amount of time and/or the injury hampers his ability.

phatj wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:Schadenfreude.

I just posted a link to an article.

MattS wrote:i wish no pain on the man and i used to really like him on minnesota, and i've never found him to say idiotic things out loud. but our odds of repeating are much higher if he's injured. we can't pick our favorite way to win and wish that he does great but everyone else dies. if santana needed tommy john surgery, our vegas odds of repeating would jump from 6% to 9%.

and there's no such thing as karma.

CrashburnAlley wrote:I want the Mets to lose fair and square; I don't want them to have a built-in excuse. It will be a sour victory if the Phillies win the division and Santana is sidelined for any significant amount of time and/or the injury hampers his ability.

Barry Jive wrote:

CrashburnAlley wrote:I want the Mets to lose fair and square; I don't want them to have a built-in excuse. It will be a sour victory if the Phillies win the division and Santana is sidelined for any significant amount of time and/or the injury hampers his ability.

You mean like they lost fair and square the last two seasons, last year by 3 games, and yet the Mets and their fans still think they were the better team? I don't think they need "excuses" to have a false sense of superiority.

CrashburnAlley wrote:

Barry Jive wrote:

CrashburnAlley wrote:I want the Mets to lose fair and square; I don't want them to have a built-in excuse. It will be a sour victory if the Phillies win the division and Santana is sidelined for any significant amount of time and/or the injury hampers his ability.

You mean like they lost fair and square the last two seasons, last year by 3 games, and yet the Mets and their fans still think they were the better team? I don't think they need "excuses" to have a false sense of superiority.

I'm talking about enjoying another division title for me personally. I wouldn't enjoy it as much if the Mets went from a 90-win team to a sub-.500 team because their starting pitcher has elbow problems. I want the Mets to be at full strength when they get smoked during the regular season.