Conspiracy Theories: A Blog

by **TenuredVulture** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 13:22:06

Wolfowitz's poli sci degree had little to do with international relations--he studied under Strauss, who was a political theorist.

by **philliesphhan** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 03:54:07

Luzinski's Gut wrote:Except everyone didn't.

There were a LOT of military officers in DC who did not support the invasion. Fell on deaf ears. There is going to be one hell of an expose about this time period once Rumsfeld and the rest of the neo-cons die off.

Exactly. It just amused me because it's not like they're talking about an event from 50 years ago. Every adult today is old enough to remember the lead-up to the Iraq war and the huge opposition to it.

by **smitty** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 15:49:07

philliesphhan wrote:
Luzinski's Gut wrote:Except everyone didn't.

There were a LOT of military officers in DC who did not support the invasion. Fell on deaf ears. There is going to be one hell of an expose about this time period once Rumsfeld and the rest of the neo-cons die off.

Exactly. It just amused me because it's not like they're talking about an event from 50 years ago. Every adult today is old enough to remember the lead-up to the Iraq war and the huge opposition to it.

As an ex-military officer, I thought the invasion was bullshit as well. Any military man with a lick of sense knew how messed up it was. Goddam man, I thought we learned from the Desert Storm experience that you gotta know a few things before committing your military:

A clear mission.

A clearly defined enemy.

Clearly defined conditions for victory.

The whole time we were doing this shit in Iraq I was like WTF is the plan here. Apparently there wasn't one. Goofy ass chicken hawks. That's what happens when you put guys like that in charge.

by **Luzinski's Gut** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 16:27:56

I was in DC at the time, and it was mind boggling how few questions were being asked about what to do once the Iraqi military had been defeated.

I was just a Captain, yet I knew about the military-political linkage...what was the political endgame? I never believed for a second - and Powell is grossly incorrect about this - that the military and political spheres of influence are distinct and separate.

On a tactical and operational level, I was trying to get people to understand that there was no way Saddam was going to fight us the same way. He was obliterated during Desert Storm trying to fight Soviet tactics with obsolete equipment and poorly trained/semi-loyal personnel. I wasn't sure how he was going to fight the US, but I was damned sure he wasn't going to try and mass mechanized units in the open desert.

There was way too much victory disease and cheerleading, and way too little intellectual discussion and discourse. The conduct of Afghanistan and Iraq has motivated me to study as much as possible about the military profession because we sure as fuck screwed up badly as possible with these two operations.

by **smitty** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 17:34:04

All true LG. I remember coming back from Desert Storm and some folks were asking why we didn't "finish the job."

FFS. We could have gone straight into Baghdad right then. But what do we do with it once we're there? No one could ever answer that one. (I was just a Captain then too. Lol.)

by **TenuredVulture** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 19:38:09

Luzinski's Gut wrote:
There was way too much victory disease and cheerleading, and way too little intellectual discussion and discourse.

Ironic, given that much of the blame can be laid at the feet of "intellectuals" and their theories about stuff.

Other ironies abound--like the fact that democratic revolutions have followed the toppling of Hussein. Alas, they weren't the kind of democratic revolutions we wanted, nor did the right countries have them.

by **Luzinski's Gut** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 20:39:04

Had many discussions about that as well. What if democracy brought you Hamas? That's always been the most likely outcome, and then it morph into totalitarianism of some variant over time.

The military intellectuals at the time were pumping up Network Centric Warfare, the guys who knew what they were talking about were talking about 4th Generation Warfare. Read up on the two and you'll see who was right and why.

by **smitty** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 21:44:18

Luzinski's Gut wrote:
The military intellectuals at the time were pumping up Network Centric Warfare, the guys who knew what they were talking about were talking about 4th Generation Warfare. Read up on the two and you'll see who was right and why.

Damn man. Just when I got a handle on Airland Battle, MOUT, RACO and Low Intensity Conflict they come up with Network Centric Warfare (NBC vs. CBS?) and 4th Generation Warfare (Aaron and Brett Boone's kids?).

FFS.

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 02:32:36

smitty wrote:
Luzinski's Gut wrote:
The military intellectuals at the time were pumping up Network Centric Warfare, the guys who knew what they were talking about were talking about 4th Generation Warfare. Read up on the two and you'll see who was right and why.

Damn man. Just when I got a handle on Airland Battle, MOUT, RACO and Low Intensity Conflict they come up with Network Centric Warfare ...

Ya gotta do what ya gotta do to keep your neighbors from mooching your wifi.

by **Luzinski's Gut** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 07:07:50

I am a military theory geek. You have been warned in advance.

by **smitty** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 17:21:22

Phan In Phlorida wrote:
smitty wrote:
Luzinski's Gut wrote:
The military intellectuals at the time were pumping up Network Centric Warfare, the guys who knew what they were talking about were talking about 4th Generation Warfare. Read up on the two and you'll see who was right and why.

Damn man. Just when I got a handle on Airland Battle, MOUT, RACO and Low Intensity Conflict they come up with Network Centric Warfare ...

Ya gotta do what ya gotta do to keep your neighbors from mooching your wifi.

I love using mortars on 'em. I'm especially fond of white phosphorous rounds. They'll get my wifi when they pry it from my cold, dead mouse.

by **smitty** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 17:26:56

Luzinski's Gut wrote:I am a military theory geek. You have been warned in advance.

Me too. Two up, one back, dry socks and a hot meal on the objective. Plan your indirect fire from the line of departure to the line of contact, on top of the objective, beyond the objective and on the flanks.

Don't violate the principles and use your combat multipliers.

Mass kicks ass.

Fire the FPF when you got zips in the wire.

And always, always keep the MET-T in mind.

Can't believe I even remember this stuff.

by **Wheels Tupay** » Fri May 03, 2013 16:07:31

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-playe ... .html?vp=1

Former Sen. Mike Gravel (D-Alaska) says the White House has helped keep the truth about the “extraterrestrial influence that is investigating our planet” from the public.
“It goes right to the White House, and of course, once the White House takes a position, ‘well there's nothing going on’...it just goes down the chain of command, everyone stands toe,” Gravel tells Top Line.

by **Barry Jive** » Fri May 03, 2013 16:47:30

Gravel ran for president in 2008. this was an official campaign video

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 09:25:28

so the White House car chase/baby/runover cop thing is a conspiracy now, too

Miriam Carey is dead, and you could be next. America, we worry about you
Read more http://www.trueactivist.com/miriam-care ... about-you/

by **Youseff** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 09:49:04

someone tried to explain to me this was caused by radio waves that control the US populace gone wrong. turns out the guy explaining it was a Libertarian, which was a huge curve ball for me.

by **Roger Dorn** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 08:56:31

The idea of reptilians on Earth was popularized by David Icke, a conspiracy theorist who says shape-shifting reptilian people control our world by taking on human form and gaining political power to manipulate our societies. Icke has claimed on multiple occasions that many of the world leaders are, or are possessed by, reptilians attempting to gain power to rule the world.

by **laf837** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:20:45

yeah, the last Bright Eyes album had a dude on there talking a bit about that shit. he seemed more positive though.

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:33:31

the mashup of positivity and negativity is one of the most bizarre parts of being around my insane friends. they're either talking about how you control your own reality, we're all headed to fifth density soon, ra is looking out for us yadda yadda, or they're talking about how reptilians rule the world, everything is a false flag, the Fed is the HQ of the NWO, etc

or they're haggling drug prices

by **Woody** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:55:06

Is no one else concerned that the amazon drone delivery program may be the beginning of making the populace complacent with drones flying in the US? It could very well lead to the Government and local Police forces having their own drones.

Drones flying above our heads to deliver packages to our houses would just be the beginning, just wait until the police start using them for surveillance or having their own drones equipped with radar guns to patrol highways for speeders. how would we tell the difference between an amazon drone and a police surveillance drone? this is the beginning of something very scary and the comments in those threads are making jokes and saying how awesome it will be without giving any notice to the potential abuse of something like this. I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks that something like this could lead to local police and for the matter the government to have their own drones flying in the United States.

There is ample reason to be concerned. Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos recently purchased the Washington Post. In 2010, Amazon pulled the plug on hosting the WikiLeaks website under heavy political pressure. Earlier this year, Amazon inked a $600 million cloud-computing deal with the CIA.

Oh, and Bezos is a billionaire. But he's not just a billionaire. His net worth is nearly $30 billion. He's the 13th richest person alive. And he was a member of the Executive Committee of The Business Council in 2011 and 2012. And he's a member of the Bilderberg Group.

And Amazon has never made a profit. It's almost like powerful people are using it to pursue an agenda . . .

And you forgot to mention how Amazon has killed local ma and pa stores and the U.S. Postal service and robbed local governments of sales taxes.

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