I trust Kirstie Alley on the economy. A strong economy requires consumption and Kirstie's done some consuming.

I noted that Sasse was trying to distance himself from Trump and a few other Reps are showing a willingness to do the same. Collins says she might not vote for the new justice (yeh, I know). Trump has been attacking back, of course, and has even hinted that maybe his people shouldn't bother going to the polls for Collins.

What is the chance that Trump will throw a fit as the rats leave the sinking ship and do something crazy like just tell his supporters to stay home or to vote on election day for Trump but leave the others blank, or something like that. Maybe he even declares a 3rd party. It's the kind of behavior he's shown in the past with bankruptcies and other failures -- he screws everyone else over on the way out the door and sets himself up for the next con. He's done it over and over again. Declare a 3rd party, take half the Rep base with him, and use that new setup to con his supporters and the system out of millions more. The 3rd party will fail in a couple years, especially if his kids take over, but by then he'll be set up for the next con. This would all be very much in line with his past behaviors, so it wouldn't surprise me that much.

He's probably going to prison if he loses, but the way the justice system works for rich people, it would be years before he was jailed for anything.

If not for the uncertainty of what the chaos might bring, I might root for him to do it so dems could end up with 60+ seats.

That was a fake Collins quote

He gets things done quickly? What has he gotten done at all?

Destroyed the country in less than 4 years?

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:He gets things done quickly? What has he gotten done at all?

trump has been an incredibly productive president if your a conservative.

• he put 3 justices on the supreme court
• got tax cuts for the rich and corporations
• is prime to dismantle the ACA in november via the supreme court
• went super hard line on immigration rhetoric and policy
• completely ignored the environment instead pulling out of the paris climate accord and letting the oil companies do whatever they want
• completely stalled the government during the height of covid and still refuses to pass a stimulus package that doesn't have over half the money going to big businesses because giving money to working people and families would set a precedent that they are human and actually deserve to be taken care of by their government.

and thats off the top of my head. trump has been a very successful republican president. i think jerseyhoya would agree most of his domestic policy has been what he wanted just not his rhetoric or demeanor.

imagine if obama did the democrat version of all that shit when he had a super majority instead of bailing out banks, making policies that let people like donald trump not pay taxes, and passing a gutted republican health care bill.

BigEd76 wrote:

kirstiealley
I’m voting for @realDonaldTrump because he’s NOT a politician. I voted for him 4 years ago for this reason and shall vote for him again for this reason. He gets things done quickly and he will turn the economy around quickly. There you have it folks there you have it

*shrug*

The "not a politician" excuse for voting for Trump is so tired and lazy. MAYBE that was valid reasoning four years ago but Trump is very much a politician. Every move he makes is based on political calculus.

Hey, da_bad_ass, don't forget about the five miles of new border wall that was built.

Maria Bartiromo is a fucking disgrace. She was on with Ron Johnson this morning essentially accusing Hunter Biden of having child porn on his laptop by linking handwriting of the subpoena for Hunter's supposed laptop to an FBI agent that specialized in those types of cases. These people are straight evil and I hope Hunter sues the shit out of them and bankrupts them all.

That is the current anon theory right now, bc of that and a Chinese guy on Chinese news back on 9/24 saying it was going to happen.

The only thing more pathetic than that theory is that anyone thinks it will move the needle.

JFLNYC wrote:The only thing more pathetic than that theory is that anyone thinks it will move the needle.

Yup, they are flailing as Biden's lead in the polls remains rock solid and steady. Trump is finished. Nothing is going to change that fact over the final 15 days leading up to Election Day.

Monkeyboy wrote:I noted that Sasse was trying to distance himself from Trump and a few other Reps are showing a willingness to do the same. Collins says she might not vote for the new justice (yeh, I know). Trump has been attacking back, of course, and has even hinted that maybe his people shouldn't bother going to the polls for Collins.

What is the chance that Trump will throw a fit as the rats leave the sinking ship and do something crazy like just tell his supporters to stay home or to vote on election day for Trump but leave the others blank, or something like that. Maybe he even declares a 3rd party. It's the kind of behavior he's shown in the past with bankruptcies and other failures -- he screws everyone else over on the way out the door and sets himself up for the next con. He's done it over and over again. Declare a 3rd party, take half the Rep base with him, and use that new setup to con his supporters and the system out of millions more. The 3rd party will fail in a couple years, especially if his kids take over, but by then he'll be set up for the next con. This would all be very much in line with his past behaviors, so it wouldn't surprise me that much.

He's probably going to prison if he loses, but the way the justice system works for rich people, it would be years before he was jailed for anything.

If not for the uncertainty of what the chaos might bring, I might root for him to do it so dems could end up with 60+ seats.

I don't want to find out, but I've sometimes wondered what Trump might be like in a second term since he's not trying to get anyone to vote for him. He's been running for reelection since the very start of his presidency.

I guess if he really did whatever he wanted and even ignored Republicans then they would just vote to remove him in the Senate though.

philliesphhan wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:I noted that Sasse was trying to distance himself from Trump and a few other Reps are showing a willingness to do the same. Collins says she might not vote for the new justice (yeh, I know). Trump has been attacking back, of course, and has even hinted that maybe his people shouldn't bother going to the polls for Collins.

What is the chance that Trump will throw a fit as the rats leave the sinking ship and do something crazy like just tell his supporters to stay home or to vote on election day for Trump but leave the others blank, or something like that. Maybe he even declares a 3rd party. It's the kind of behavior he's shown in the past with bankruptcies and other failures -- he screws everyone else over on the way out the door and sets himself up for the next con. He's done it over and over again. Declare a 3rd party, take half the Rep base with him, and use that new setup to con his supporters and the system out of millions more. The 3rd party will fail in a couple years, especially if his kids take over, but by then he'll be set up for the next con. This would all be very much in line with his past behaviors, so it wouldn't surprise me that much.

He's probably going to prison if he loses, but the way the justice system works for rich people, it would be years before he was jailed for anything.

If not for the uncertainty of what the chaos might bring, I might root for him to do it so dems could end up with 60+ seats.

I don't want to find out, but I've sometimes wondered what Trump might be like in a second term since he's not trying to get anyone to vote for him. He's been running for reelection since the very start of his presidency.

I guess if he really did whatever he wanted and even ignored Republicans then they would just vote to remove him in the Senate though.

I doubt that very much. GOP are scared shitless of being primaried by Trump’s cult and there are a TON of Republican senators up for re-election in 2022.

The next four years of “Trump Unchained” would be far worse than the first four. He will spend that time dishing out favors to his debtors and rigging the 2024 election for his mini-me.

Hasn't Trump been pretty bad at pushing other candidates? His cult of personality is limited to himself.

@Monkeyboy noting that Sasse is barking a bit, but an outcome is that the GOP chair, Rona McDanials, has leveled a warning that putting any day light between republican legislators and candidates and 'the donald' is inviting future problems from the GOP. So if anyone wonders where the party is, it is the party of Trump, not the grand old party with its (murdered) conservative values.

Rona understands how much power he has right now, even with getting killed in the polls. He could take them all down with him if he wants. The more I think about who he is, the more I think he's capable of ruining them on his way out.

Lara Trump, a senior adviser to President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign, on Sunday defended her father-in-law’s suggestion that Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer should be imprisoned alongside his other political rivals.

In an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Lara Trump insisted the president was merely “having fun at a Trump rally” when he criticized Whitmer, a Democrat, at a campaign event this weekend.

“He wasn’t doing anything, I don’t think, to provoke people to threaten this woman at all,” Lara Trump said of the president’s remarks about Whitmer, who recently was the target of a foiled kidnapping plot.

“The president was at a rally,” she added. “It’s a fun, light atmosphere. Of course he wasn’t encouraging people to threaten this woman. That’s ridiculous.”

I went for a hike today and did not see any of "the shows". This is a pretty egregious set of statements from Mrs. Eric. I get that she knows the answer to 'who's your daddy', but its still vile. All that said, how much direct dollars has the Trump clan made over Donald's term in office?

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