I like it!

Stay_Disappointed wrote:I wouldn’t go near anyone who would fly a huge trump flag but unless they are law enforcement what does trump provide that benefits them?

Supremacy!

Conservative judges

Bucky wrote:

Stay_Disappointed wrote:I wouldn’t go near anyone who would fly a huge trump flag but unless they are law enforcement what does trump provide that benefits them?

Supremacy!

I understand he's bringing blacksmithing back.

GOP Congressman expresses violent opposition to 2nd amendment!

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sa ... reat-armed

Werthless wrote:GOP Congressman expresses violent opposition to 2nd amendment!

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sa ... reat-armed

I suggest we gather up all the Rambo wannabes FROM BOTH SIDES, take them to the middle of the desert and let them fight it out. Meanwhile, the rest of us can get to work actually making American great again.

Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1239140

What will he think of next? then he'll complain that his double votes weren't counted?

Is it the state felony? Would that then make his supporters ineligible to vote in the future? While getting them in a rest on their record? How does this fit into the lawsuit plan?

How many points will Pelosi's hairdo cost Biden?

One thing that gives me some hope is that I kept hearing how Hilary was a historically bad candidate. Biden isn't. I think there are lot more never-Hilary people than never-Biden people.

yep, that is the notion that is saving my sanity right now.

Phred wrote:One thing that gives me some hope is that I kept hearing how Hilary was a historically bad candidate. Biden isn't. I think there are lot more never-Hilary people than never-Biden people.

Oh god yeah

Plus, "Trump the business genius will fix Washington," and "he won't act this was as president"

Grotewold wrote:

Phred wrote:One thing that gives me some hope is that I kept hearing how Hilary was a historically bad candidate. Biden isn't. I think there are lot more never-Hilary people than never-Biden people.

Oh god yeah

Plus, "Trump the business genius will fix Washington," and "he won't act this was as president"

Right. I think/hope that some people voted for him with the idea that he would change or "rise to the challenge of the office" and "act presidential". Those people were very, very incorrect.

Trump pushing to get a vaccine distributed in late October is in my opinion likely to backfire. It seems much of his base are likely anti-vaxxers, and I would bet that an overwhelming majority of the 30% who say they would refuse a vaccine are Trump supporters. I mean, sure, some Trump supporters did drink the bleach (I think bleach should replace kool-aid as the beverage of choice for the gullible) but I think many will stop at actually injecting something into their bodies. Non-Trump supporters don't trust him anyway.

Phred wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

Phred wrote:One thing that gives me some hope is that I kept hearing how Hilary was a historically bad candidate. Biden isn't. I think there are lot more never-Hilary people than never-Biden people.

Oh god yeah

Plus, "Trump the business genius will fix Washington," and "he won't act this was as president"

Right. I think/hope that some people voted for him with the idea that he would change or "rise to the challenge of the office" and "act presidential". Those people were very, very incorrect.

Unfortunately there are still a lot of people who are like, “well I don’t like the way he talks and acts, but...”

yeah, they move the goalposts as necessary to justify their backing a racist pig

TenuredVulture wrote:Trump pushing to get a vaccine distributed in late October is in my opinion likely to backfire. It seems much of his base are likely anti-vaxxers, and I would bet that an overwhelming majority of the 30% who say they would refuse a vaccine are Trump supporters. I mean, sure, some Trump supporters did drink the bleach (I think bleach should replace kool-aid as the beverage of choice for the gullible) but I think many will stop at actually injecting something into their bodies. Non-Trump supporters don't trust him anyway.

this is going to be a disaster if the vaccine that gets pushed through ends up being effective.

jamiethekiller wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:Trump pushing to get a vaccine distributed in late October is in my opinion likely to backfire. It seems much of his base are likely anti-vaxxers, and I would bet that an overwhelming majority of the 30% who say they would refuse a vaccine are Trump supporters. I mean, sure, some Trump supporters did drink the bleach (I think bleach should replace kool-aid as the beverage of choice for the gullible) but I think many will stop at actually injecting something into their bodies. Non-Trump supporters don't trust him anyway.

this is going to be a disaster if the vaccine that gets pushed through ends up being effective.

I think I agree, if I understand you correctly. If you push the vaccine out before trials are done, you really may not know if it's effective or not. The other problem is that pushing it out early will undermine confidence that it's safe and effective and people will refuse it.

But it's also a disaster if the vaccine that gets pushed through is ineffective, or limited in its efficacy. People will think resuming normal activities is safe when it's not.

(This is a huge problem with the therapeutic plasma treatment--since it hasn't been properly studied, no one really knows if it works.)

jamiethekiller wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:Trump pushing to get a vaccine distributed in late October is in my opinion likely to backfire. It seems much of his base are likely anti-vaxxers, and I would bet that an overwhelming majority of the 30% who say they would refuse a vaccine are Trump supporters. I mean, sure, some Trump supporters did drink the bleach (I think bleach should replace kool-aid as the beverage of choice for the gullible) but I think many will stop at actually injecting something into their bodies. Non-Trump supporters don't trust him anyway.

this is going to be a disaster if the vaccine that gets pushed through ends up being effective.

Won't it save thousands of lives?

TenuredVulture wrote:Trump pushing to get a vaccine distributed in late October is in my opinion likely to backfire. It seems much of his base are likely anti-vaxxers, and I would bet that an overwhelming majority of the 30% who say they would refuse a vaccine are Trump supporters. I mean, sure, some Trump supporters did drink the bleach (I think bleach should replace kool-aid as the beverage of choice for the gullible) but I think many will stop at actually injecting something into their bodies. Non-Trump supporters don't trust him anyway.

I don't think trump needs to worry about the part of his base that are anti-vaxxers, he has their votes anyway. It isn't the uneducated, anti mask wearers he needs to swing, he has their vote.

He needs to try to work on some of the undecided college educated voters that trust scientists.

heyeaglefn wrote:

jamiethekiller wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:Trump pushing to get a vaccine distributed in late October is in my opinion likely to backfire. It seems much of his base are likely anti-vaxxers, and I would bet that an overwhelming majority of the 30% who say they would refuse a vaccine are Trump supporters. I mean, sure, some Trump supporters did drink the bleach (I think bleach should replace kool-aid as the beverage of choice for the gullible) but I think many will stop at actually injecting something into their bodies. Non-Trump supporters don't trust him anyway.

this is going to be a disaster if the vaccine that gets pushed through ends up being effective.

Won't it save thousands of lives?

not sure if this is what jtk means, but i believe this would be true long-term. short-term yes, it would save us from a pandemic, but long-term it will destroy confidence in the necessity of due diligence when releasing pharmaceuticals.