CalvinBall wrote:

PSUsarge wrote:Pardon my ignorance on this in advance but something I've been thinking about - if many / most colleges are remote this fall, does this have any tangible impact on voting? 18.4 million U.S. citizens are enrolled in college, with like 99+% of them presumably of age to vote.

Just thinking between being at home and potentially voting in a different county / state, plus likely not having much else going on acting as an incentive to vote simply due to lack of alternative activities, is this enough to disrupt anything?

It will be challenging. Absolutely.

Lincoln University for example has a pretty robust GOTV operation. Student volunteers go around and knock dorm doors multiple times through the fall. We had a hope that we could possibly flip a state house seat down in Southern Ches Co but it is going to be probably near impossible if Lincoln is not out in full force.

This might be the case in Pennsylvania, but for students who go to school in states with strict voter ID laws like Tennessee or Texas (college IDs are not valid for voting in those states) having students at home may increase turnout. Lil' Vulture is registered to vote in Arkansas, since it is a royal pain in the ass for her to register in Tennessee. If she's on campus, she'll vote absentee back here in AR.

The other thing though is that many students probably first register to vote through on-campus voter registration drives.

momadance wrote:Chuck Woolery is now the ultimate authority.

@kylegriffin1
The Trump White House is actively trying to discredit Dr. Fauci and the president is retweeting a retired, radicalized game show host who's lying and saying that the CDC and doctors aren't telling the truth about COVID.

I'd like to solve the puzzle.

@realDonaldTrump
I know many in business and politics that work out endlessly, in some cases to a point of exhaustion. It is their number one passion in life, but nobody complains. My “exercise” is playing, almost never during the week, a quick round of golf. Obama played more and much longer....
8:11 AM · Jul 12, 2020

This is nuts. He went back to his VA club, second time in a weekend, to log 2412:36 hours at his clubs and 125/126 golf outings (262 property visits).



That person was on hand to greet Donald Saturday.

For score keeping, Obama hit the fairways 98 times (alternately reported at 102) at this juncture of his presidency, so if low score wins it Obama by 28 (or 24), which is really to say that Trump has been on the course 28 more time not counting his tax payer paid for trips to visit his properties. Obama also, using the high number, golfed 113 times his first term meaning that Trump has the record locked down.

I know Wolf is not great but we would be so screwed if he was not there. The Republicans push the shittiest bills. They want to change it so there are judicial districts because there should be statewide judges from Potter and Beaver counties too! It is just basically a way to stuff the court with Republican judges. They pawn it off as some sort of diversity thing.

JFLNYC wrote:Trump’s going to lose Florida. He and DeSantis screwed things up so badly here it’s impossible to deny for all but the Trump Kool Aid Klan. Their arrogance and ego in thinking they could control nature by pretending the virus didn’t exist is appalling. They are now being forced to reckon with the consequences of their delusions.

Unfortunately so, too, are those of us who live here.

In a fair election held today, no question.

It's hard to imagine all the ways that the Russians and the Saudis and the Trump team and Barr will try to cheat here.

Also, voters have a memory of about 11 days. If cv19 is fading in November, it's still a horse race, I fear.

That's the thing. We have no idea what they're going to try to pull, but it will be much worse than 2016, I feel confident in saying that. And if he wins, there will be no investigation worth having. He can also hide the preparation much better than 4 years ago because he controls many of the levers and he has his people in place. Who is going to find this year's Carter Page or Flynn? Nobody.

Dems need to guard against the obvious AND the shit they never thought anyone would ever try to pull. That requires imagination and funding. And the funding needed to guard against this stuff has been cut off by McConnell. We are flying blind with no resources, while in 2016 we had eyes open and money if needed.

I really believe these guys are traitors in the real sense of the word, but it's hard to dislodge a dictator wannabe when the founding fathers didn't expect this type of beast.

momadance wrote:Chuck Woolery is now the ultimate authority.

@kylegriffin1
The Trump White House is actively trying to discredit Dr. Fauci and the president is retweeting a retired, radicalized game show host who's lying and saying that the CDC and doctors aren't telling the truth about COVID.

“Everyone is lying. The CDC, Media, Democrats, our Doctors, not all but most, that we are told to trust. I think it’s all about the election and keeping the economy from coming back, which is about the election. I’m sick of it,” Woolery wrote in a tweet shared by the president.

In another post Trump retweeted, Woolery claimed there exists “so much evidence, yes scientific evidence, that schools should open this fall. It’s worldwide and it’s overwhelming. BUT NO.”

Trump also retweeted a message from Mark Young, Woolery’s co-host on his “Blunt Force Truth” podcast, which asked: “So based on Dr. Fauci and the Democrats, I will need an ID card to go shopping but not to vote?”

They are all out to get him. GET OFF MY LAWN

Which is more likely, the president and his administration are lying or nearly everyone else in the whole world is lying?

Monkeyboy wrote:Which is more likely, the president and his administration are lying or nearly everyone else in the whole world is lying?

Depends who you ask.

JFLNYC wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:Which is more likely, the president and his administration are lying or nearly everyone else in the whole world is lying?

Depends who you ask.

It's literally insane.

It's weird seeing a cult out in the open like this. Usually cult leaders keep their subjects isolated to keep them from getting outside information. I guess that's what he's trying to do with OANN, but he's managed an amazing amount of control over his supporters. I guess people are in their bubble.

They’ve got his tweets, Faux News and the word of God. What could possibly go wrong?

He's gonna fire Fauci, isn't he

Monkeyboy wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:Which is more likely, the president and his administration are lying or nearly everyone else in the whole world is lying?

Depends who you ask.

It's literally insane.

It's weird seeing a cult out in the open like this. Usually cult leaders keep their subjects isolated to keep them from getting outside information. I guess that's what he's trying to do with OANN, but he's managed an amazing amount of control over his supporters. I guess people are in their bubble.

Well when people had these crazy conspiracy theories in the past they either kept them to themselves or tried to get others in their social circle to listen and were likely ignored.

Thanks to our pals at Twitter and Facebook, these lunatics have found strength in numbers, so they're now validated and empowered. Trump rode that horse all the way to the damn White House and appears to be doubling down on it now that shit is fucked.

pacino wrote:He's gonna fire Fauci, isn't he

Only if the smear campaign works. They know it's a net loss otherwise.

Governor Wolf worked with Republicans (and left out the Ds again) to pass another tax giveaway to petrochemical plants because JOBS.

pacino wrote:He's gonna fire Fauci, isn't he

I’d think they would wait and figure out if they can meet Chuck Woolery’s salary/perquisite demands before announcing that he is the new NIAID chief

"They" told him not to free Stone, he did. "They" told him that the optics of golfing are bad, he'd golfed 2 days each weekend for the last few. He is off book, and knows what's best. His ego cannot be contained and no one can stop him at this point. So will he fire Fauci? Anyone's guess, but there is really nothing or no one stopping him.

I read somewhere that Mark Meadows is running a leak trap by floating false information around the White House to see what gets to the street. By letting that be know it is pretty effective itself at plugging a hole, but it also has the effect of even more people not knowing what is going on and a general ineffective of the government as a whole. Imagine needing to now pause to wonder if you are about to act on information that might be purposely faulty.

CalvinBall wrote:Governor Wolf worked with Republicans (and left out the Ds again) to pass another tax giveaway to petrochemical plants because JOBS.

This is so hilarious. Senator Turncoat Yudichek praising Governor Wolf for living up to campaign promises to leverage the Mrcellus Shale for jobs and the FUTURE OF PENNSYLVANIA.

Gas is a dying industry. And this provides prevailing wage jobs just for construction which are temporary jobs! It is hilarious that the conversation around energy and manufacturing is still as if we are in 1980. Give tax credits to big gas companies! Send good money after bad is all it is. Ohio has done this nonsense and they still continue to hemorrhage jobs.

thephan wrote:

@realDonaldTrump
I know many in business and politics that work out endlessly, in some cases to a point of exhaustion. It is their number one passion in life, but nobody complains. My “exercise” is playing, almost never during the week, a quick round of golf. Obama played more and much longer....
8:11 AM · Jul 12, 2020

This is nuts. He went back to his VA club, second time in a weekend, to log 2412:36 hours at his clubs and 125/126 golf outings (262 property visits).



That person was on hand to greet Donald Saturday.

For score keeping, Obama hit the fairways 98 times (alternately reported at 102) at this juncture of his presidency, so if low score wins it Obama by 28 (or 24), which is really to say that Trump has been on the course 28 more time not counting his tax payer paid for trips to visit his properties. Obama also, using the high number, golfed 113 times his first term meaning that Trump has the record locked down.

If I had one piece of advice for presidents, it would be: Don’t golf.

Play basketball (Obama is half right) and bowl (Nixon built you your own alley for Christ’s sake).

The optics on golfing fucking blow.