momadance wrote:Now Lindsey wants to have Mueller testify in the Senate lol.

Its interesting because I feel like there is almost nothing good that can come of it from a GOP/Trump point of view.

thephan wrote:I think the media needs to take a breath. You’re gonna break all their arms back slapping that Trump warm out. I think the media needs to take a breath. You’re gonna bring all their arms back slap in the Trump warm out.

FFS we’re all wearing masks and we’ve been wearing them for months. Because that jack hole did the right thing for just one fucking breath it’s a new cycle item dominating. The Jack Ass was at a hospital, it is the minimal type of thing that you should do when you’re at a hospital for heaven sakes, it’s the kind of thing that they make you do in cold and flu season around sensitive people. Get over it, or at least point out like a douche bag finally complied.

The other thing they need to do was chill out about the sudden DACA type offer. Since he is very much on record is trying to purge these people, the story has to be more about him free falling in the polls and trying to pull out any stop he can including another way to do what he does best, buy his way into or out of something. Especially when he’s buying his way into something with someone else’s money, a specialty.

We've all been wearing them but you read stories in Florida and so on about how people aren't and are mocking people that do. Media overdoes everything but I do think it's a least somewhat notable. There are polls indicating republicans trust Trump on this stuff more than medical experts.

Obviously that's awful and probably they said they trusted him because he was saying what they wanted to hear, but hopefully it changes some people's minds and gets them to wear masks.

traderdave wrote:

momadance wrote:Now Lindsey wants to have Mueller testify in the Senate lol.

Its interesting because I feel like there is almost nothing good that can come of it from a GOP/Trump point of view.

Yeah, I really have no idea what the thoughts behind this are. Graham isn't even on the Judiciary Committee. Tillis and Ernst are looking like they may lose their seats anyway.

Man, they released this @9pm Saturday. They are fast, even if they do not need a ton of production.

If they are calling him to testify, they have something to damage him or the investigation. It's also possible Mueller is participating. He's been good friends with Barr for a long time. How many people are friends with people like Barr? I mean, he must know Barr's thinking on stuff and yet he's good friends with him.

For those who haven't read Mueller's oped, it's basically

1. Russia attacked the US by interfering in our election through damaging leaks and social media attacks
2. Both the Russians and the TRump campaign thought it would be a mutually beneficial relationship.
3. Lots of people were convicted and went to jail.
4. Stone communicated with Wikileaks about the timing of the leaks and passed on this information to the Trump campaign.
5. Stone was part of the Trump campaign for much of the campaign, but then distanced himself as the election neared.

6. Somehow, despite all this information, including convictions to key players like Stone, the Trump campaign did not collude with Russians to win the election.

Somehow he left out lots of important stuff that would have also tied Trump's campaign to the Russians, such as the Trump Tower meeting and Trump Jr's emails saying he would love it if they could get help from Russia.

Sorry, but I really believe Mueller was chosen to do the investigation because they knew he wouldn't go after Trump. Maybe they have Kompromat on him. He's been friends with Barr so long that maybe Barr knows something. Dems agreed with it, but they couldn't push back against Mueller much because he had a good reputation and I'm sure they didn't think he would do what he did. He simply didn't pursue many of the leads that could have led to something.

Monkeyboy wrote:If they are calling him to testify, they have something to damage him or the investigation. It's also possible Mueller is participating. He's been good friends with Barr for a long time. How many people are friends with people like Barr? I mean, he must know Barr's thinking on stuff and yet he's good friends with him.

For those who haven't read Mueller's oped, it's basically

1. Russia attacked the US by interfering in our election through damaging leaks and social media attacks
2. Both the Russians and the TRump campaign thought it would be a mutually beneficial relationship.
3. Lots of people were convicted and went to jail.
4. Stone communicated with Wikileaks about the timing of the leaks and passed on this information to the Trump campaign.
5. Stone was part of the Trump campaign for much of the campaign, but then distanced himself as the election neared.

6. Somehow, despite all this information, including convictions to key players like Stone, the Trump campaign did not collude with Russians to win the election.

Somehow he left out lots of important stuff that would have also tied Trump's campaign to the Russians, such as the Trump Tower meeting and Trump Jr's emails saying he would love it if they could get help from Russia.

Sorry, but I really believe Mueller was chosen to do the investigation because they knew he wouldn't go after Trump. Maybe they have Kompromat on him. He's been friends with Barr so long that maybe Barr knows something. Dems agreed with it, but they couldn't push back against Mueller much because he had a good reputation and I'm sure they didn't think he would do what he did. He simply didn't pursue many of the leads that could have led to something.

Either that, or the GOP is about to turn on Trump in very dramatic fashion. When is the testimony scheduled?

Admin is turning on Fauci in public and aggressive ways

Gots to blame someone.

YOU TOLD ME TO TRUST FAUCI

thephan wrote:Admin is turning on Fauci in public and aggressive ways

"He's been wrong and inconsistent several times about a virus we've never seen as a species before"

PSUsarge wrote:

thephan wrote:Admin is turning on Fauci in public and aggressive ways

"He's been wrong and inconsistent several times about a virus we've never seen as a species before"

I love how Trump publicly says Fauci "said masks weren't necessary and now says they are" while his surgeon general is on TV over the weekend wearing a mask during an interview and saying essentially that things changed and what we thought wasn't necessary before (mask) now is. But let's not go after the head of the government's head of national health...

Uncle Milty wrote:

YouGov poll released yesterday had Trump up 1 in Texas (likely voters). They had Biden +6 in FL - also likely voters.

Trump’s going to lose Florida. He and DeSantis screwed things up so badly here it’s impossible to deny for all but the Trump Kool Aid Klan. Their arrogance and ego in thinking they could control nature by pretending the virus didn’t exist is appalling. They are now being forced to reckon with the consequences of their delusions.

Unfortunately so, too, are those of us who live here.

JFLNYC wrote:Trump’s going to lose Florida. He and DeSantis screwed things up so badly here it’s impossible to deny for all but the Trump Kool Aid Klan. Their arrogance and ego in thinking they could control nature by pretending the virus didn’t exist is appalling. They are now being forced to reckon with the consequences of their delusions.

Unfortunately so, too, are those of us who live here.

No he didn't and you know it. If you have any doubt turn on a TV, any TV, and DeSantis is there telling you that you are wrong.

From the Land of LoLz is Trump complaining that the border wall privately built to both advance his agenda and get access to contracts seems like it is crumbling and might fall into the Rio Grande (what if it accidentally became a bridge across the river?). Trump says it was built to make him look bad! Hilariously, aside from everything being about him in his mind, is that it was really built to curry favor and game the procurement process, while also getting direct access to funds through a PAC.

Basically it is a scam and Trump is butt hurt that he did not think about it first.

MT-SEN

Bullock (D) 46% (+2)
Daines (R) 44%

MT-AL

Williams (D) 44% (EVEN)
Rosendale (R) 44%

MT-GOV

Gianforte (R) 46% (+4)
Cooney (D) 42%

Presidential

Trump 51% (+9)
Biden 42%

Trump approval

Approve 51% (+5)
Disapprove 46%

Biden favorability

Favorable 35% (-21)
Unfavorable 56%

Pardon my ignorance on this in advance but something I've been thinking about - if many / most colleges are remote this fall, does this have any tangible impact on voting? 18.4 million U.S. citizens are enrolled in college, with like 99+% of them presumably of age to vote.

Just thinking between being at home and potentially voting in a different county / state than usual (ex. most of the students that typically vote in Centre County while at Penn State won't be in Centre County), plus likely not having much else going on acting as an incentive to vote simply due to lack of alternative activities, is this enough to disrupt anything?

PSUsarge wrote:Pardon my ignorance on this in advance but something I've been thinking about - if many / most colleges are remote this fall, does this have any tangible impact on voting? 18.4 million U.S. citizens are enrolled in college, with like 99+% of them presumably of age to vote.

Just thinking between being at home and potentially voting in a different county / state, plus likely not having much else going on acting as an incentive to vote simply due to lack of alternative activities, is this enough to disrupt anything?

It will be challenging. Absolutely.

Lincoln University for example has a pretty robust GOTV operation. Student volunteers go around and knock dorm doors multiple times through the fall. We had a hope that we could possibly flip a state house seat down in Southern Ches Co but it is going to be probably near impossible if Lincoln is not out in full force.

If only there were some alternative to voting in person.

JFLNYC wrote:If only there were some alternative to voting in person.

Right but getting students to actually vote becomes more complicated.

Chuck Woolery is now the ultimate authority.

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The Trump White House is actively trying to discredit Dr. Fauci and the president is retweeting a retired, radicalized game show host who's lying and saying that the CDC and doctors aren't telling the truth about COVID.