Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Augustus » Sun Jul 05, 2020 17:41:07

I like how it shows Maxine Waters and he says "...these new Democrats." Maxine Waters is almost 82 years old and in her 15th term in Congress. Nothing new about her, unless he didn't really mean "new."
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Sun Jul 05, 2020 19:52:02

1 wrote:Why did it have to be so long? I could barely stomach the first half.


Had to say everything at least twice too make sure you know that he hates some large percentage of American citizens and is up for a civil war to kill them.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Jul 05, 2020 20:32:32

Might be more appropriate for the environment thread I'm sure we have somewhere but I'm too lazy to find it.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Sun Jul 05, 2020 21:12:59

I still can't get over how kneeling is considered a sign of disrespect and anti-American. I love it, how kneeling today basically means the opposite (to many conservatives) as it does when they do it in Church.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Sun Jul 05, 2020 21:20:51

But hey, we'll take the American flag and distort it's colors every which way to promote <insert cause>.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Sun Jul 05, 2020 21:22:36

"This left-wing cultural revolution is designed to overthrow the American Revolution." - DJT

Jolly good old boy, spot of tea. The opposition are royalists. Getting the empire back together.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Jul 06, 2020 07:09:33

Seems to be some opinion pieces out there about a Kanye Presidential run. I kind of laughed it off, it seems that people have some amount of concern about splitting the vote. My initial reaction was he would vote for Kanye West, and then I remembered that we have President Trump.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Jul 06, 2020 07:21:18

thephan wrote:Seems to be some opinion pieces out there about a Kanye Presidential run. I kind of laughed it off, it seems that people have some amount of concern about splitting the vote. My initial reaction was he would vote for Kanye West, and then I remembered that we have President Trump.

As far as I know it's all talk at this point - hasn't taken any real steps. Also past the deadline in places.

Think it's just a stunt for his new music getting released. If not I just can't see him drawing enough votes away from Biden to make a difference.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Mon Jul 06, 2020 09:41:20

I'm gonna drop this article here, although it could have gone in any number of threads.

https://medium.com/@sarahadowney/this-p ... ed038d33ae

I think this is what jtk and brantt have articulated explicitly over the recent past, and something that many of us are intuitively aware of. There are certain things we don't say in polite company, and that list of things we don't say is expanding.

Here's a sampling of the most impactful thoughts from that piece:

To be clear, I think that people still know reason, that the sky is blue and 2+2=4. But increasingly they are denying these things in public, out of fear that the mob will get them and destroy their reputations, livelihoods, and safety. There is an assault on professors, scientists, and journalists right now for publishing or stating any scientific fact that upsets the mob of woke social media users: thousands of people being “canceled” for a tweet they made 10 years ago, or stating that men are different in certain key evolutionary ways than women. People are not only afraid to post what they think, but even to like other people’s statements, or follow them.
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Headlines that raise your blood pressure make money. If you’re shocked by what you read, you’re more likely to click, engage, and share. Journalists want to shock you, but they don’t want you to hate them; they’re just the messengers. So they research what public sentiment seems to be on an issue, then spit that same sentiment back into the void of the Internet so readers feel safe and validated. E.g., journalists tested the toxic waters of twitter to gauge public sentiment about JK Rowling’s tweets, and they saw mostly angry people frothing hatred that she’s wildly transphobic. So the journalists wrote stories also condemning her, and people ate it up. The shock is a mix of validation and righteous indignation (“I knew JK Rowling was transphobic; look at this article saying so!”) along with horrified confusion (“Why is everyone saying JK Rowling is a bigot when she didn’t seem to say anything radical?”). Meanwhile, there is a silent majority of us growing increasingly alienated from what we’re seeing in most mainstream press.
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Increasingly there are only two types of people on the Internet: 1, those who can have a nuanced discussion about complex issues, and 2, those who can’t. And those I’m seeing in group 2 are mostly, shockingly, on the left. They are the group I used to identify with. Somehow because they believe they’re fighting for the underrepresented or disenfranchised, they are imbued with utter confidence, utter conviction, that they are 100% right and can use any tactics necessary. If you’re doing something because of peer pressure despite your gut telling you it’s wrong, or you haven’t thought through the logic or the consequences, stop.

It takes a lot work to live in the gray area. Being skeptical and questioning everything you see takes more cognitive overhead. But I promise you: it’s worth it. It makes you stronger. You become a free agent, an independent mind uninhibited by the shrieking all around you. You can still accept facts, principles, and stereotypes, but only once you’re satisfied that you’ve verified them enough to internalize them. You’ll start to see that issues are rarely black and white, and that you’ll often find yourself aligning in one direction on some, and another direction on others. You can pick and choose what you believe, like ordering a la carte off a menu of ideas. Your current stance on an issue does not define who you are, but being a critical thinker does.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:10:18

she could just disengage instead of writing that 10000 word veiled right wing screed.

like if you want to have a conversation about the polarization of america, sure. but when you say its largely one side that's intransigent and belligerent in their beliefs then you are not a serious person.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:20:43

JUburton wrote:she could just disengage instead of writing that 10000 word veiled right wing screed.

Lol the list of people to follow at the end. Just awful
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:23:06

td11 wrote:
JUburton wrote:she could just disengage instead of writing that 10000 word veiled right wing screed.

Lol the list of people to follow at the end. Just awful
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:23:09

Prager U and Candace Owens. Haha.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:25:45

I mean JK Rowling appears to be a bigot. How is mentioning that she's a bigot a bigger problem than her being one?
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:31:07

The Supreme Court is really taking its sweet ass time doling out these rulings
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Augustus » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:32:20

Cancel culture is bad, but it's not bad because Kens and Karens are getting fired or because of whatever that person in the article was talking about. It's bad because...

1. It centers individual actions over systemic oppression in the collective understanding of what racism is.
2. This simultaneously promotes the view that addressing the overt problematic behavior of individuals can solve racism in America and distracts from larger, more important conversations about systemic racism.
3. As a result, privileged people can disassociate themselves from racism because they're not calling the police on black people for walking their dog even though they still benefit from racism and white supremacy.
4. Furthermore, institutions opposed to the changes necessary for a more just world can co-opt the language of social justice and position themselves as allies. Think Proctor and Gamble making woke commercials while profiting from slave labor.

The feeling that "you can't say certain things anymore" comes from voices that were silenced for generations now answering back. People now feel more free to say "that's racist" or "don't talk like that around me." The "PC culture is taking my free speech" crowd sees this as oppression, because privileged people always see any slight move toward equality as oppression.

As stated above, if this person wants to spout her views without being challenged, she should log off and she should also stop claiming that free speech is what she's after.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:39:40

How much of this stuff is twitter and other social media, and how much of it is real life? I have facebook, but I don't use it for news. I don't have twitter, don't use reddit, or anything like that. Click bait is a problem too I guess, as it the demise of print media.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:42:10

pacino wrote:The Supreme Court is really taking its sweet ass time doling out these rulings


Five more to go. They are going to drag this to the middle of the month.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:42:34

The Trump and Biden presidential campaigns now see the coronavirus response as the preeminent force shaping the results of November’s election, prompting both camps to try to refocus their campaigns more heavily on the pandemic, according to officials and advisers of both campaigns.

Advisers to presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden see the covid-19 crisis as perhaps the clearest way yet to contrast the former vice president with President Trump, using the stumbling response and renewed surge in cases as ways to paint Trump as uninformed, incapable of empathy and concerned only about his own political standing.

Trump’s advisers, by contrast, are seeking ways to reframe his response to the coronavirus — even as the president himself largely seeks to avoid the topic because he views it as a political loser. They are sending health officials to swing states, putting doctors on TV in regional markets where the virus is surging, crafting messages on an economic recovery and writing talking points for allies to deliver to potential voters.

The goal is to convince Americans that they can live with the virus — that schools should reopen, professional sports should return, a vaccine is likely to arrive by the end of the year and the economy will continue to improve.

White House officials also hope Americans will grow numb to the escalating death toll and learn to accept tens of thousands of new cases a day, according to three people familiar with the White House’s thinking, who requested anonymity to reveal internal deliberations. Americans will “live with the virus being a threat,” in the words of one of those people, a senior administration official.


Good lord.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby MFP » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:44:17

momadance wrote:
The Trump and Biden presidential campaigns now see the coronavirus response as the preeminent force shaping the results of November’s election, prompting both camps to try to refocus their campaigns more heavily on the pandemic, according to officials and advisers of both campaigns.

Advisers to presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden see the covid-19 crisis as perhaps the clearest way yet to contrast the former vice president with President Trump, using the stumbling response and renewed surge in cases as ways to paint Trump as uninformed, incapable of empathy and concerned only about his own political standing.

Trump’s advisers, by contrast, are seeking ways to reframe his response to the coronavirus — even as the president himself largely seeks to avoid the topic because he views it as a political loser. They are sending health officials to swing states, putting doctors on TV in regional markets where the virus is surging, crafting messages on an economic recovery and writing talking points for allies to deliver to potential voters.

The goal is to convince Americans that they can live with the virus — that schools should reopen, professional sports should return, a vaccine is likely to arrive by the end of the year and the economy will continue to improve.

White House officials also hope Americans will grow numb to the escalating death toll and learn to accept tens of thousands of new cases a day, according to three people familiar with the White House’s thinking, who requested anonymity to reveal internal deliberations. Americans will “live with the virus being a threat,” in the words of one of those people, a senior administration official.


Good lord.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

The Trump administration/campaign wants people to "grow numb" to family/friends/neighbors dying. The depth of their evil is infinite.

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